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You clearly underestimate the amount of skill and tenacity involved here. I can tell you these percentages are waaay off and more like 100% death sentence for "regular" humans (if they can even do the approach). These are like olympic-level athletes (gold medalist kind).

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Can you please make your substantive points without swipes? This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

If you know more than someone else, that's great, but in that case please share some of what you know, so the rest of us can learn.

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The original comment also felt like a swipe or at least slightly disrespectful so hence my reply. But you're right - rules are rules so I edited my comment =)

Agreed on the 100% for regular humans, but what would the % be for this calibre of climbers?

I dont have hard data but definitely nowhere close to 10-20% that’s just ridiculous. Somewhere like 1 to 10000 on routes with very high objective danger would be my guess

I replied separately, but this is being written about because up to now, every last elite climber said 'nope, I'll 100% die on this one'. Well, perhaps there were aborted attempts (I'm not aware of any), but you abort when it becomes impossible, ie death is looming.

People can quote stats for Himalayan climbs and the such, but a climb like this lacks meaningful statistics. It is so far from a trudge up Everest, and unequalled, that I don't see how to assign a stat. Right now it stands at 0%, which is probably not the right number.

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