No idea. I got it all, for $30.
I didn't even want to read the whole table for all the features of windows 8. I just want Windows 8.
No idea. I got it all, for $30.
I didn't even want to read the whole table for all the features of windows 8. I just want Windows 8.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/os-x-lion/id444303913
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/os-x-lion-server/id444376097
And customers first need to buy Snow Leopard separately, because you can't install Lion on its own, you can only upgrade to it (somewhat amazingly): http://www.apple.com/macosx/how-to-buy/
On a related note, over the weekend I tried to install Lion on a 5-year-old iMac. Was surprised to find out it's not supported on hardware even that far back. I hope they don't continue either trend with Mountain Lion.(And a footnote, Windows RT is for an entirely different architecture—ARM—and an entirely different class of devices, so no surprise there's a separate SKU for it.)
You can install Lion on it's own http://www.macworld.com/article/1161087/install_lion_over_le...
But it's a bit silly.
It's not like your 4-year old hardware or software stops working. It's just that newer software gradually stops being available for your old hardware.
Microsoft still has the audacity to charge several hundred dollars for their OS. How is it that the cost of Windows keeps going up, but the cost of computers keeps going down?
That's really disingenuous, given that
1) the consumer versions of Windows traditionally cost less than $100
2) Microsoft doesn't make money on hardware, whereas the cost of Apple's OSes is priced into Mac hardware
You don't get to tut-tut Microsoft for an expensive OS (that runs on the consumer's choice of commodity hardware, cheap or expensive) when you pay a premium on a Mac all-in-one computer. You can justify Apple's OS pricing as being easy to stomach all you want - ultimately it's your choice to buy into the intended psychology of their pricing strategy - but don't try to paint that as a rational, fair comparison.
You can get OEM copies for less from places like NewEgg if you buy hardware, but never as low as the big OEMs pay.
When a decent computer was over $2,000 the cost of Windows + DOS was around $85-100. Now the same computer costs about $500 and Windows is as much as $199.
1/ I've never bought Windows. I tend to buy new hardware when it comes along every 2-3 years (which is the typical lifespan of any hardware regardless of brand/vendor).
2/ And I didn't pay $1200 for the hardware either like Apple stuff. In fact I paid equiv $800 for a Lenovo with Windows 7.
3/ The non Apple hardware is EXACTLY the same and is cheaper (try a Lenovo T/X machine which are far better put together than Apple kit). Oh and I can change the battery without a screwdriver ;-) Oh and I can get the spare bits off ebay for virtually nothing.
I love how Apple fanboys enjoy telling people how they didn't get ripped off when they did...
My main notebook I bought in early 2008 and I've upgraded the OS several times. Most people with Apple equipment hang on to their systems significantly longer. They're not treated as disposable like a $600 netbook might be.
The reason I'd want Windows is not always because of a new machine, but to run it in VMWare or BootCamp. Paying $100+ for this privilege seems crazy in this age.
Why:
You can't remove the battery without a screwdriver. That's dangerous, especially with LiPoly cells. We had a 2010 MacBook Pro which had an electrical fault on the logic board which caused a fire with no possibility to remove the battery i.e. stop the short. It basically got thrown out of a second floor window into the street to stop it taking the building out.
Apple stuff is designed around appearance and not durability and maintenance. Metal doesn't make it good. Lenovo particularly concentrate on the latter two. My T61 has a titanium chassis, titanium screen protection. You can throw it around and stand on it quite happily. The plastic around it protects everything from shock. My T61 has been down a flight of stairs, has been fallen on and had 2 drinks poured in it - it's fine. I can also replace ANY part inside it in about 10 mins flat. HP EliteBooks are what you are referring to - they are poorly designed like the MacBooks are and suffer failures regularly. They are a copycat machine. I cannot count the number of times my colleagues have had to take their MacBooks and MacBook Pros back to Apple for failures. None of our (35) Lenovo T-series laptops have EVER been taken out of service for maintenance or damage.
My T61 was made in 2007 - it's still fine. It's had memory and an SSD chucked in it (which took 5 mins each).
Apple hardware is for penis enthusiasts. It doesn't give you anything over a quality non-Apple laptop other than smugness.
Basically, your argument is based on comparing a MacBook to a shitty netbook, spending all your money on Apple love and not having enough cash left over for a Windows license which you're too cheap to pay out for.
Idiot.
MacBooks from 2007 had removable batteries just like your beloved plastic brick. Your argument is based on ignorance and apparent hatred.
"Penis enthusiasts"? You must be charming to be around.
Go away.
It probably makes them more money overall. But with the cost of user confusion and possible frustration. I guess that's a tradeoff they're willing to make. Which is why I won't buy it for $100 bucks.
So really they've only eliminated one edition (Ultimate) and changed the name of another (Starter -> RT).
Not that it isn't an improvement. And the simplified naming is a big deal as well. Seriously, who thought "Home Premium" was a good idea? Premium compared to what?
What? You're way off base here. Please re-read article more carefully.
The market segments are not identical, I realize that, but they're similar, hence my comment about basically renaming "Starter" to "RT". In fact, based on previous reporting, RT will even be targeted at "Home" users, which is also the same as Starter.
I didn't mean they literally renamed the product, just that RT will now occupy a similar market position to that previously occupied by Windows 7 Starter.
Windows RT is aimed at people who want a tablet. This is not the same market. This is the set of people who currently shell out $500 and up to buy an iPad, twice as much as a netbook.
This is not the same market, and it's not a renaming of the cheapest OS. Starter was the most stripped-down OS. RT is actually the most feature-rich, due to the inclusion of Office. There's a bit of overlap, but only in the same way that there's overlap between people who buy a netbook and people who buy a ThinkPad.
""" Microsoft has long said that WOA will not include an x86 emulator, so legacy applications would never run directly on the platform, but there was always the possibility that existing desktop applications could be recompiled. That option is now unambiguously eliminated, with Microsoft saying "WOA does not support running, emulating, or porting existing x86/64 desktop apps." Office is a special, unique case. All third-party applications for WOA will be Metro applications delivered via the Windows Store, and must meet the restrictions imposed on those applications. """ (http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2012/02/windows-8-on-a...)
Then there's this...
""" Touting the long battery life of ARM-based devices, the guide tempers expectations: "Although the ARM-based version of Windows does not include the same manageability features that are in 32-bit and 64-bit versions, businesses can use these power-saving devices in unmanaged environments." That means ARM devices won't be able to be added to Active Directory domains and have their user access managed by system administrators, or be remotely managed through Microsoft's System Center environment. """ (http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2012/02/windows-8-for-...)
Sorry for the long quotes.
Anyway, my point is that RT is targeted at "home" users looking for a portable device, same as Starter was. Price point really doesn't come into it.
Netbooks aren't even a factor any more. Go check Newegg, there are basically only two models, with some spec options, still available unless you buy refurb. Tablets have taken over the really-small-but-still-afforable-computer segment and many customers who would have purchased a netbook a few years ago will now consider a tablet.
As for not including an x86 emulator, that would be a wasted nonfeature. Emulating x86 on ARM would be painfully slow, to the point that it's inclusion would likely be worse than its exclusion. Can you imagine how many people would complain about Windows RT if it promised x86 compatibility, yet was unable to run any modern games, or Photoshop, or anything, really, that demands a powerful processor?
I still disagree that Starter was aimed at the same market as tablets. Netbooks are just crappy laptops. Tablets are a different experience altogether. The key selling feature of the netbook was low price, with portability being next. Tablets aren't really in the low price competition. The iPad starts at the same price as a reasonable laptop, and goes up in price to match pretty good laptops.
Firstly Windows 8 RT is only going to be pre-installed and only on ARM devices. So you can't decide to buy it at all.
All home PCs and consumer laptops people will have Windows 8 installed already. Therefore people won't need to make a decision.
Businesses will be able to use Window 8 or the Pro version if they require the more advanced encrpytion or domain management features. (I can also see some high end business laptops having this installed.)
Enterprise users will have their computer installed for them with the Enterprise SKU.
So really there will be no confusion on the users side, the most complicated choice of the whole lot will be for small businesses trying to decide between the normal or Pro version, but I'm sure there will be an upgrade path.
Took me all of 5 minutes to digest that table (and decide I want Windows 8 Pro for Boot from VHD and Client Hyper-V). That's not too much time to choose something I'm going to be using for 3 years, is it?
But that's not how consumers think. Or companies, for the most part.
If your product aspires to be that complicated, you're probably doing it wrong.
Cable is a good candidate for the "more granularity" category both because it's naturally easy to segment, and because while monthly bills are not large, they of course add up fast.
For an example of a product (rather than service) that can benefit from more granularity, consider computers. Even Apple, our paragon of non-granular pricing options, offers ~4 SKU's for their higher end laptops.