Look at how much attention that The Browser Company has gotten for their Arc browser on Mac. Their primary focus is great UI and making an excellent browser for their users. What has Firefox been doing with all their money and time?
Look at how much attention that The Browser Company has gotten for their Arc browser on Mac. Their primary focus is great UI and making an excellent browser for their users. What has Firefox been doing with all their money and time?
Many years ago Firfox was very slow
It has improved enormously, obviously, but some people never forget
It is a lesson. Never take your eye off the ball. Firefox did, back in the day, and Google ate their lunch
I also use ublock origin in android which should make loading page faster I guess but unless the page is absolutely awful, chrome remains faster even with ads on.
I think its OSX and Windows people talking past each other.
On a Mac, Firefox is pale in comparison to Safari.
That said your average person isn't trying out every browser multiple times per year to see how fast it is today.
How does that help when you can't run uBlock Origin on Safari?
I don't use Safari because of the extensions and overall it's too basic for me, but not everyone is like you or me.
There is a third party extension for it but I'm generally reluctant to install browser extensions because I worry about security.
XUL extensions maybe? The reason I gave up on Firefox after literally decades of using it was because they kept removing features I was actively using without fixing any of the problems. What's the point of using a niche browser if it is exactly like the non-niche browser, but with more compatibility issues?
I'll give you an example that annoys me because I look at it every day: the bookmarks bar still uses the same margins as it did in Firefox 3, even after 2 major UI redesigns. Then we have things like windows from Firefox 3 for some stuff with pages that open on tabs and have a different UI. Like, pick one and stick with it.
CTRL/CMD+Click on a bookmark has a different behaviour than CTRL/CMD+Click on a link. No other browser does this.
Profiles are there, but there's no user friendly UI... and no, containers can't do the same things as profiles.
Then you have things like battery use on platforms like macOS, which is still worse for me than Chrome or Safari.
So yeah... it works, but it's not the best browser. I tolerate it mostly because of extensions like uBlock Origin.
People don't use one browser over another because of performance, full stop. Certainly not over 10% to 20% differences. Even years ago when Chrome did have an advantage, they would never have gained marketshare so quickly if they hadn't spammed Firefox users visiting google.com with Chrome ads.
Even features don't matter. People use Safari, Safari is severely lacking in "features". 99% of users aren't power users.
TLDR: Firefox is a good web browser. It's not failing in the market because it's not a good browser. It's failing because consumers don't seem to actually care one way or the other.
I worked at Google for 10 years, so my tolerance of them is higher than some, I guess. But also, now, my distrust.
Anyways, Firefox is fine. Nice, in fact.
The fact the market leader goes out of their way to shit all over privacy concerns says more about their marketing pull than the quality of their browser.
The user agent string shouldn't exist to begin with. It was a boneheaded decision to allow that sort of easy discrimination baked right into the protocol.
When MS tried this shit they got slapped with anti-trust. What google is doing is worse in every dimension.
Nowadays, cellphones are primary computing devices for a lot of people, with a large number of supporting and symbiotic industries around them. The various platform owners have drawn particular lines around their products, and have largely defended them in anti-trust courts - but there's no reason that those lines should be allowed to be where they are, or won't expand in the future.
What stops a platform from, in addition to exerting full control over the software that runs on it, also choosing to exert similar control over the packets that are sent or received by it?
Vivaldi can customise damn near every aspect of its user interface. I can set up every menu how I want it. Remove things I done use, and move the most used item to the top. I can dock my tab-bar wherever I want. I can have a proper status bar. The list goes on. It's what Firefox should have been.
citation fucking needed.
Seriously dude, it's an opinion and he provides some rationale behind it. Feel free to disagree, but then just say you disagree. This isn't a factual claim that can be proven or disproven.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1699128
Mozilla removes "View Image" from the context menu for no reason at all, and a developer (he/him) explains why That's A Good Thing, and eventually shuts it down after almost 100 comments disagrees with it. There was a Reddit thread about it as well at the time, but I'm not digging through that trash heap.
As mentioned, this has been a repeating occurrence. "View Image" was a tiny thing, but I happened to use it many times per day. And many MANY such tiny things just wears you down eventually.
Also this was three years ago, and there is at least one extension that 'fixes' this if you want it.
Every upgrade?
I've been using firefox since forever (as long as it has existed) and while I was very annoyed when they removed the customizable UI support a few years ago, that's really the one and only time when they broke functionality as far as I've ever been able to notice.
And yes, I did report it to their bug tracker - which is private, by the way, so there's no way to know who else is having those problems, or how work on them is proceeding. I will say that the bugs I reported on the last attempt are fixed, but it's little consolation when new equally bad bugs show up in their place. And as for perf issues, there are numerous active threads on Vivaldi forums about them.
I'd love to use Vivaldi as my primary, esp. now that they also have an iOS offering, so tab & history sync across all of my devices is possible. But it really needs to be more stable.
Once manifestv3 starts really making waves, Firefox will be the best place to go for ublock origin and other adblockers.
Google owns huge swaths of the internet and can nudge people as well and break other OS's on whim.
Mozilla probably felt the need to have other offerings and leadership to winback something when "being a great browser" wasn't enough in the past 14 years.