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>Why does everybody feel entitled to use it if they're not using Apple products?

Because I want to talk to my friends without being locked into Apple's ecosystem. Simple as that, I don't need any other reason.

This language about "entitlement" feels like when Google complains about people using adblockers on YT - I don't care because they're both $2T corporations, and the only "entitlement" I see is the way Apple and Google think they're entitled to my money and my data.

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Yes! All I hear when entitlement comes up is "Why do you feel entitled to text message your iPhone friends if you don't use an iPhone?"

because there IS an open SMS standard, and Apple has hijacked all their phones to use iMessage in it's closed ecosystem, saying to the rest of the world: "Go Fork Yourselves".

So, right back at ya, Apple. If you cannot make it by distinguishing your products on their MERITS vs the amount of lock-in you can generate, I feel no reason to help protect your brand, or access to it

> Because I want to talk to my friends without being locked into Apple's ecosystem. Simple as that, I don't need any other reason.

You can't do that now with SMS and a plethora of other messaging apps?

I think the "send my grandmother non-pixelated photos of my kid using the default messaging app" is a fair ask.

She doesn’t have an email address? You’re not in a walled garden, just self host it and send her a link.

You're really suggesting that Android users go back to 1996 just to talk to their friends and relatives who use iPhones?

Sure, I can print and mail her the picture, too - the point is convenience. Sometimes, people want to send photos back and forth, too, so asking the technical user of the two to setup a host isn't a solution.

(But I'm guessing you already knew that)

Why are you entitled to use Apple's messaging servers without paying for access?

People are willing to pay but Apple won't take their money.

Is this an answer to my question? I’m allowed to add more load and increase your infrastructure costs just because you won’t take my money in the way I want you to?

The argument is that iMessage is a de facto monopoly utility and should be operated accordingly.

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