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This article and discussion are specifically regarding base autopilot, not FSD.

Yeah I mixed up the terms but I was talking about things like autopilot.

My point was even if you don't have "door-to-door good as a human driver really fully self-driving", the main feature of self-driving is that you should be able to not pay attention for a while. Personally I'm not sure that "proper" FSD will even be possible in the near future.

That's fine. But it's not meant to be self driving, and it isn't a paid extra. You still need to be attentive, you just get to stop "operating" for a while.

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