Hacker News Reader

The fact that things are better in Europe than in Russia or China does not mean that we can't show concern for the changes that are being imposed in Europe.

I don't know why people keep bringing up Russia or China in every one of these conversations. It's nothing but a strawman fallacy.

View on HN

Because GP said this:

> They are no better than the Russian and Chinese counterparts after all

Correct, we should be protective of our freedoms and indeed the EU (IMO) is a bit lacking in its speech protections, but no one except China and Russia are served by this meme that US/EU are just as bad as China and Russia.

Because without Russia and China to point a finger at, the arguments are just bad.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com