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I barely tap my wrist when it says "Apply slight turning force".

When it gives you the 2 handed graphic to take control that's more of an alarm it's because the in vehicle camera can see you're not looking at the road for an extended period of time. It did that to me one time when I was sending a text while stopped in a traffic jam.

The 2nd warning is really annoying and unclear about the level of force needed.

Also test drove an Ioniq 5 and we liked it a lot too. Definitely the top competitor from what we saw. Every other vehicle that approaches the features of the Tesla that we saw costs a crazy amount of money.

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Maybe it was something with the one I rented. The "slight turning force" was about 2 hairs away from "so much turning force that it disengages", and enough for a noticeable swerve in the vehicle path.

This one had a full FSD computer, and the depicted situational awareness on the screen was pretty neat with it classifying vehicles, pedestrians, construction cones, etc... but FSD was not enabled on the one I rented and was not able to be enabled since it was a rental.

I will say, the ownership experience is very different from the test drive experience.

When we test drove a model X a couple of years back we didn’t like it. Even after I test drove my current model 3 I was mostly doing it because it was essentially a free car. I was spending $500 / month in gas so the Tesla virtually paid for itself.

Owning it and getting used to all the features, configuration, using the app, the service experience, etc…it really changes things. I tell people all the time that I did not expect to enjoy this car as much as I do.

I’ve tried the FSD for 2 months and it’s really impressive. Not perfect though and I think the beta flag is warranted because of that. I love it on the highway in traffic. Anytime there are road cones it can be a little finicky though.

There are a lot of edge cases to deal with for FSD and that’s a big programming challenge.

There were tons things they did right. And there's plenty that was done wrong in my Ioniq 5. It's been in the shop twice in 60k miles, which is 2x more in half the miles that my previous vehicle(Chevy Volt) was.

It seems google maps is what backs their nav system, which means it's the only factory-installed nav system that can even come close to competing with google/waze/apple maps.

The touch ui layout seemed to be pretty well thought out, so it's probably about as good as a touch ui can be for vehicle control.

It seems with all the raving over FSD that whatever system operates FSD is entirely separate than the system that operates autosteer, because autosteer tried to kill me(swerve right, into the exit/divider/barrier) at just about every exit I passed.

I loved the Volt. I leased/owned 2 different ones for 3 years each. It was a sad day when they stopped making them.

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