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Have you ever tried meth? I feel like you’re demonizing meth. There is someone reading this who needs meth to function and you’re comparing their prescription to rubbing alcohol.

Meth has higher user ratings on Drugs.com for treating ADHD than dextroamphetamine or Adderall etc have. If it weren’t for the side effect profile and potential for abuse, I reckon it would be the mainline treatment.

I empathize and understand what you mean though. When others say you’re basically on meth, that must not feel good.

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A. They aren't comparing it to rubbing alcohol. The analogy is that they are both alcohol so they are the same right? Obviously not.

B. I've tried meth. It's nothing like Adderall and much, much more potent.

> The analogy is that they are both alcohol so they are the same right? Obviously not.

They are the same. The difference is just that the bottle sold as "rubbing alcohol" has been intentionally poisoned.

Rubbing alcohol, in the US at any rate, is isopropanol and vodka is ethanol. You're probably thinking of denatured alcohol which is ethanol with methanol added.

Rubbing alcohol is isopropanol, not ethanol.

In the same way that amphetamine is not methamphetamine. Different molecules, different chemistry!

Rubbing alcohol is isopropanol. Drinking alcohol is ethanol.

You can get “industrial ethanol” that has some methanol added to prevent people from consuming it, and pay liquor tax on it. These are for chemists for specific applications.

None of these things are “the same”.

Iso and ethanol are NOT the same.

I've tried both as well, and I suspect your lying to yourself about potency.

I certainly didn't have a scale to measure the dosage to match say a 10mg orange adderall pill.

By analogy, if you did a 75ml "shot" of alcohol each day, and then had a mixed drink one day, you would think it's a lot more potent.

Meth is substantially more serotonergic IIRC. Can’t find the numbers.

Serotonegic? What does that even mean?

For a given quantity, eg 1mg, of methylamphetamine vs d-amphetamine, the meth will release more serotonin?

Higher relative affinity for 5-HT receptors over DA.

There's no way. I snorted a bump of approximately 50mg, at the most, off of my hand and was completely jacked for 48 hours. It was the most uncomfortable speedy high I've ever experienced. I drank an entire case of beer trying to come down and it did almost nothing. I've gone through a gram of coke in a night, snorted and/or smoked, and it was nothing compared to meth. I'm on 30mg Adderall daily and I can sleep just fine.

I remember thinking "Why would anyone want to feel like this?" Will never touch the stuff again.

You most likely did far more than 50mg of methamphetamine.

I just weighed a couple 20mg orange adderall pills, they're each around 0.2-0.3 grams (my scale is only accurate to 0.1g)

You're right, sorry. The point of their analogy is that they aren't similar, because they're pointing out the parent comment's analogy is likewise bad.

A lot of people that have tried both meth and amphetamine in comparable dosages would tell you they are very comparable, though.

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