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What distress is Germany exactly in that would have been avoided by nuclear power?

Energy intensive industries are leaving Germany, and energy bills are more expensive that they'd have to be.

I hear that all the time, it doesn't show in actual industrial sites being diamantled. That would take much longer than we had this discussion. It worked so, industry will get electricity subsidies now, so that talking point worked great.

You should google "Germany industrial site shutdown" and see the closing down announcements.

"Chemicals producer BASF to axe jobs at energy intensive production sites in Germany" "Tyre maker Michelin announces closure of German sites" "Rust belt on the Rhine"

These news predate renewable energies, read it started back in the 90s (propably eatlier, but that is when I cared enough to remember).

You know something else? The majority of chemical sites in Germany is old, and environmental constraints became quite severe. Guess where new investment goes then.

These are all closures from 2023

Energy intensive industries do not use electricity but gas.And Germany had some pretty below market deals with Russia for the German chem industry. Now it pays the same as everybody else.

And the gas supply bad new are not over. Ukraine's gas transit agreement with Russia, which allows RU to export nat gas through Ukraine to Poland, Germany and Austria, will expire in 2024 and Ukraine doesn't look in an easy mood to renew it.

Is Europe still geting Russian gas directly so?

Yes, 13% of non-LNG gas imports of 2022 were through land pipelines like those.

You call 13% dependence? If so, the EU (!), because that is an EU number, is equally depedant on Norway (11.6%)...

Well, it is in distress because of their extreme fetish for austerity over a growing economy that is enabling the rise of the far right and Wagenknecht's socially conservative GDR vanity project.

And how would nuclear power have avoided any of that?

what extreme fetish for austerity? Compared to what other countries?

The rise of the fascists, left an right, is due to refugees and inflation - and Trump style conspiracy theroies. And vaccs. But mainly refugees. Just talk to some AfD voters.

Dependence on Russia.

Not a thing anymore, or am I mistaken?

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