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Comment by davmar | Hacker News Reader

Volvo EX30 is looking interesting https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ex30-electric/

It is a bit of a culture shock for me to see someone describing this car as "small" (how I understand "econoboxes"). This car is far from small.

All the impressions I've read about the ex30 is that it is much smaller in person than the pictures let on.

It is a bit shorter and a bit taller than a Prius, which is why I reacted with surprise above (this does not seem "small" to me).

Exactly, it’s 4.25m. Small would be 3.5-4m.

Small is under 2.5m :)

https://www.citroen.fr/ami

This thing costs more than 45.000EUR with any kind of equipment and is massive - a far cry away from something like a Renault Clio or similar econobox.

The "Ultra" package barely adds anything that's worth it. The only options worthwhile are drive train but the base model is perfectly fine.

Renault Zoe at $34k?

> Inexpensive

> Starts at $35k

Average new car transaction price in the US is $48k.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a43611570/average-new-car-...

And the average new home in the US is $480k, but at a median income of $31k I would never call it inexpensive. Let’s save it for the truly high value purchases like $90 espresso machines, $400 phone, $400 PC, and $300 TV. Maybe a $10k 10 year old Toyota with 150k miles left?

Median household income in the US is more like $70k. Median individual income is $40k. Median household also varies tremendously by state, Mississippi is around $44k and Maryland/DC area is $90k.

Mean or median?

You should not use mean for things like this, if 3 guys buy a Ford for 33k and 1 guy buys a Ferrari for 300k, average price is 100K

If 1 guy is dead from hypothermia and the other guy is on fire then on average they have a healthy body temperature

Indeed except for the fact that it has no dashscreen and everything is in the hideous tablet.

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