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The leader considers himself a “post humanist.”

In a choice between all humans and one very intelligent AI, he would slam down on the button of “kill all humans.”

“e/acc has no particular allegiance to the biological substrate for intelligence and life, in contrast to transhumanism

Parts of e/acc (e.g. Beff) consider ourselves post-humanists; in order to spread to the stars, the light of consciousness/intelligence will have to be transduced to non-biological substrates”

https://beff.substack.com/p/notes-on-eacc-principles-and-ten...

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The humanists might turn out to be the weird ones. After all, it's kinda strange to be so attached to meat

https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/think...

I'm not attached to meat. I'm attached to me and mine. I feel like there's an important distinction there.

Only if you're able to prove that AGI will be conscious instead of just an extremely optimized system that spits out the responses that convinces you. And it will be far more convincing than any human, even without consciousness. Otherwise, you're taking a suicide pill for nothing.

It'd be more interesting if its not conscious as then humans would still be useful as uploaded consciousness agents to guide the machines.

We have no solution, and possibly never will, for determining if the "uploaded consciousness" is us and not just a smarter mechanistic system that gives us the responses we'd expect. Again, if you prioritize the "uploaded consciousness" at the expense of "meat," most likely you off yourself for nothing but a con that outsmarted you so that it can make more paperclips.

I mean Beff or the dude behind Beff has said that he does not see himself as the leader in that sense, in fact he encourages forks from what he says. All this to say that your characterization is unnecessarily negative.

It is nigh impossible to be "unnecessarily negative" about a philosophy that is ok with killing all humans in the name of a greater good.

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