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It's not just my work output, though.

I'm a programmer on a team with other programmers, many of us remote.

We're not standing around a water-cooler talking. We're on team chats. We're reply-all'ing to email-chains. We're sharing memes. Half the time we talk across chat when we're sitting in the same room.

These aren't formal design docs or code output [the analogy to flight controls], this is our water-cooler talk, and it can all be subpoenaed in a variety of situations, to be read into court record and taken out of context for the rest of time.

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Yes, and talks between air traffic control and pilots are recorded.

Would you be okay with a recorder being beside your desk at all times? Catching every conversation, even personal ones?

Currently it's your choice to participate in sending memes over email. You also have the choice to walk over and have a private conversation.

Would this be any different from walking out of the cockpit to have a private conversation?

Pilot's shouldn't be encouraged to walk out of the cockpit mid flight, also after 9/11 all cockpit doors are locked during flight

That sounds like a fair point.

But are all zoom calls required to be archived, specifically in the medical device industry?

Certainly you have the option to make a phone call to a teammate, or walk over to someone if not remote, and say something without any record. Don't you?

Which, if a company has a policy of recording all work communications, sounds a bit like you're bypassing the monitoring systems in place.

Mind you, that is how people mostly work anyway. Even if I generally trust an employer to not be intrusively monitoring my communications, for anything sensitive I'm ideally going to talk in person or failing that, at least go with a personal cell call.

I mean, a pilot subject to constant audio recording could learn ASL, or scribble notes on a piece of paper, or whisper in someone's ear.

But we aren't talking about how to circumvent monitoring. We're talking about working when your idle socializing (while working) is monitored and logged.

Logged for 25 hours anyway. Stuck in a box in the airplane, that can only reasonably be opened by a technical crew.

I could deal with it if my laptop did that.

I think this thread started with a suggestion to permanently log and archive it though, the 25 hour part is less controversial

The proposal was that it would be automatically uploaded and searchable by corporate.

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