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A similar device is the Lenovo Yoga Book 9i. The next gen model was shown off at CES and is coming out in a few months. That one also has a 180 degree hinge unlike the Asus model which can't be fully flattened. I've seen good reviews about the first gen model and might get the new one if I get a laptop this year.

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/yoga/yoga-2-in-1-seri...

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Every non-Thinkpad Lenovo I've had, or a relative has had, has the build quality of a cheap toy, and eventually, some part of the plastic case would crack, a hinge would fail, or similar.

I'd absolutely never buy another one ever.

I'm not looking to buy a new laptop for many years, and I hope a Thinkpad version comes out before then. This is very much a design I appreciate. For now, from the photos, I think Asus did it better, though.

Hopefully, by that point, they'll also be 4k displays. My current laptop has 4k, which is very competitive with dual 3k.

I find all laptops suck. (Not tried Apple though) and so gone for the Dell option (knowing it’ll fuck up like any other laptop) and then going hard on the accident damage, extended warranty, home service etc. Well worth it, had em out 4 times in first 4 months :-)

I agree. I have used HP, Dell and Lenovo laptops and all of them suck in terms of build quality. I use a Macbook for work and even though I hate macOS the build quality of the laptop is exceptional. There is obviously a huge price difference in Windows vs Mac laptops. I am willing to fork additional money to the Windows laptop companies if they can guarantee a well built laptop. But looking at their track record it doesn't seem worth it to pay thousands to get a crappy laptop anyway.

FYI: My Thinkpad has better build quality than any Macbook. My Dell was comparable.

The key thing about Dell and Lenovo is they have a byzantine set of laptop lines, from plastic craparific up to rather good. A top-of-the-line Thinkpad will set you back more than a Macbook, but will be better built too (and faster). Dell doesn't go quite as high, but still goes pretty high in quality.

I actually switched from Thinkpads to a Legion 7 2021 and I'd recommend them over Thinkpads. It is by far the best Linux experience on a Laptop I've ever had.

* upgradable RAM

* two NVMe slots

* actually good keyboard (that unfortunately is part of the case, but replacement parts are available)

* the glass touchpad is better than my P14s with the X1C glass touchpad mod.

* the panel and refresh rate is very good and there's no lottery.

I don't know why Lenovo cuts corners on their business laptops, especially in the last two points.

It's heavy, but I don't lug it around too often, and having a 140W (max power spec) 3070 is great.

Just avoid placing them vertically on a stand, I had to replace the thermal assembly eventually.

I like that the Asus one converts faster to dual monitor mode with a built-in kickstand, and the keyboard has a touchpad.

Yeah the Asus looks more serious about work. The consumer Yoga line at Lenovo always seems an off to me.

The yogabook is very well made, very apple-like in fit and finish. Rounded-off corners everywhere, very sturdy, great daily driver.

IMHO the Asus looks plasticky and flimsy in the videos I've seen so far, And when used in side-by-side mode it looks extremely asymmetric and goofy.

(Disclosure: The included yogabook keyboard is a bit flimsy, not as nicely designed as the main laptop, not up to the same standards)

Somewhat related, I've been eyeing the thinkbook twist (oled+eink screen)[1], but it's unlikely to run Linux I suspect otherwise I'd be all over it.

[1] https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.theverge.com/2023/1...

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