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"AGI" will never be achieved without building a model that a) _continually_ learns, and b) learns from not just text, but from combined auditory and visual (multimodal) sensory information as well.

The reason a 16-year-old can learn how to drive much quicker than existing self-driving models is because the 16-year-old already has built up 16 years worth of prior knowledge about the physical world.

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Don't discount the millions of years of evolution to provide the "blank slate" human learner with perceptual systems, physics-based reasoning, and motor systems ready to be fine-tuned for this slightly different variant of goal-forming, planning, and locomotion.

Though it does seem like robots are reaching this baseline level soon.

(imo) c) is made to be aware of its own death

The 16 year old has a lot of motivations to learn how to drive, including the pursuit of reproduction (a cope for mortality)

d) thinks. unprompted, unstimulated. Decides for itself what's important to think about, makes new connections by that process alone, and understands the implications of those new connections and how to use them.

Here's also where I see it ending. It will need energy--likely a LOT, paid by someone, to do this. Who is going to pay that bill for it to maybe, maybe not, come up with something useful, likely mixed with mostly noise and distraction, over undefined timescales, of largely non-measurable value, when there's far greater value, less cost, less risk, in simply training it deterministically?

Various religious types think they'll live on in heaven. I'm not sure that stuff correlates much with learning to drive.

That would be like a bird saying humans aren't a Natural General Intelligence because they can't fly. How much vision and audio is required to be intelligent? There's a lot of electromagnetic radiation we can't see and audio bands we can't hear. Would you say that Helen Keller wasn't generally intelligent?

Okay but if that's the case we are no more than a decade away from integrating those into a newer and bigger model.

I think you are underestimating just how many challenges there are in self-driving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcKchbfn1VY

Nobody will accept self-driving cars that are as dangerous as a teenage driver.

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