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The title of the video is "Police Called To Stop Filming During Piano Livestream".

There are no indications that the people who (very wrongfully) approached them are members of the CCP. They may well be but there's nothing in the video supporting that.

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There are. Apparently one woman from their group (Christina Lee), which appears in the video in the background, was designated by the MI5 as an agent of influence of the CCP. That is one of the possible explanations for their demands to have the video to be removed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62179004

Perhaps it's a kindness. The title otherwise would be 'patriotic Chinese people threaten' ...

They didn't threaten him at all? They (wrongfully) asked him forcefully to stop filming.

true, they didn't say 'stop filming or we'll break your legs', but it was nonetheless attempt to intimidate.

I'm now slightly intrigued as to what they are actually doing. By their accents, they've clearly been in UK for a while, are gathered for some kind of patriotic celebration or whatever, and very much don't want to be filmed.

It's most likely just a university compatriot get-together or something similar, but this is the fuel of conspiracy theories, sleeper cells, etc.

Some people just don't want to be filmed in public. My wife is Korean and would probably act the same way (half because in Korea it's illegal). I couldn't care less, but I can think of a few people I know who would have the same reaction (for a multitude of reasons) as this group. What if they're protesting AGAINST the CCP, using Chinese flags to get people's attention then telling them about issues going on with the Uyghurs? This guy puts them on YT and now the CCP is looking into them. I'd say that's just as probably as them being CCP (no indication in the vide).

   What if they're protesting AGAINST the CCP, using Chinese flags to get people's attention

lol

I mean... you can't put forward a case on why I'm wrong because you have no clue, just like I have no clue. At least I put forward a viable alternative vs just "lol"'ing at you.

The woman in the video posted a tweet explaining that they were there to film their own video that was meant to be secret until after Chinese new year. You can see they have their own camera with them in the video

They did make up a sexual assault.

I'm not sure that's any better. Imagine assuming every american is CIA, or every russian is FSB.

that doesn't follow.

they are waving PRC flags, therefore they are 'patriotic'.

but maybe not members of the CCP, as the poster pointed out.

>they are waving PRC flags, therefore they are 'patriotic'.

>but maybe not members of the CCP, as the poster pointed out.

I'm not claiming that because they're patriotic that they're CCP members. In fact if you read my comment more carefully I'm claiming the opposite, by pointing out how absurd it is to assume a patriotic American to be a CIA agent. I'm not sure how doing so is "kindness".

Well it's a kindness to ordinary patriotic Chinese people, who don't go around trying to bully people who happen to be filming, like the CPP might.

Don't bring CPP into this! you are not the same age! /s

they explicitly stated that they are a chinese TV crew. that should be clear enough and not need further speculation.

> Imagine assuming every american is CIA

... crap- they're ON to me ...

I'll let you in on it. The probably fake police officer isn't why it's going viral.

I've watched him for years, he's always pulling hilarious stunts, plus the music is awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH6-PVn8HVE

The reason he's going viral is that those were high ranking CCP, lets say alleged intelligence operatives, operating in the UK. I don't think he knew it at the time of uploading the video.

>The reason he's going viral is that those were high ranking CCP, lets say alleged intelligence operatives, operating in the UK. I don't think he knew it at the time of uploading the video.

The reason he's going viral is surprising amount of sinophobes believe a racist when he claims a Chinese person holding a Chinese flag are high ranking CCP officials or even more idiotic, intelligence operatives. Because holding Chinese flag is very good trade craft for spies.

The Chinese lady in the video does career advice videos / planning for Chinese international students who wants to find employment in UK.

https://www.youtube.com/@mengying6582/videos

She has more subscribers then I do. 1,200 subs...

600 views is ground breaking on her videos. Practically a youtube influencer extraordinaire.

So here's the thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6tmlXm7pMc

He knows chinese folk and meme songs. He plays for chinese people often. There's no 'sinophobia' here.

Flipside, you can see the flanking 'security' in the original video who were clearly there as well. That's a big group and an awful lot of skilled security for a 1,200 subs youtube influencer.

Did I suggest she's an influencer extraordinaire? She makes career advice videos for Chinese international students. She has a small channel with small views like most entrepreneurs at this level.

What skilled flanking security? You mean a bunch of other Chinese people in the group? A woman in the 30s isn't old enough to even be an important bureaucrat under PRC system that is tacitly gated by age.

>He knows chinese folk and meme songs

Yes, the old I have a Chinese wife and can't be racist rationale. He got into a confrontation a Chinese lady and just casually accused her of being a CCP sychophant, and doubling down on follow up videos giving noise to conspiracy that this group is some Chinese op. That's as sinophobic as it gets. If this happened to even a Russia who didn't want to be filmed I doubt he would be screaming Kremlin KGB ops.

Holding that many PRC flags is a clear indication of supporting the CCP. It's not bigotry to expose CCP supporters.

That's quite a leap, but still - even if they are CCP supporters, that doesn't automatically make them CCP members.

The CCP has 90 million members.

> probably fake police officer

Impersonating a police officer is a crime. If you have any evidence that's occurring in the video, please get in touch with the Met Police.

Yeah this bugs me - the police offer says "you can't just call them communists" and he says "I just said they're holding a communist flag, is that wrong?" and then uploads the video saying it's CCP. If this had been a British person who didn't want to be filmed would this video been making quite the stir? It just feels like he's milking it.

He is definitely milking it. Note that he's absolutely in his right to film and publish this. The people complaining have no standing which is why in the end it got filmed and published.

Also the policewoman's stance was absolutely disgraceful.

He's milking it so much he's on Mike Graham's show on TalkTV tonight.

This is not a sign of good faith, in my experience.

He's post a follow up video where he reads anonymous mail from "chinese" sender trying to explain/characterize how the group is obviously some intelligence op with handlers as if they're exposing some conspiracy. When it's just a bunch of people holding Chinese flags (hows that from communist tradecraft) for some function (and a white dude @2:09) and don't want to be recorded. Also doing interview circuit.

Yeah - what harm would there be in just respecting they didn't want to be filmed or kept being asked to dance? Sure they were annoying too, they could have walked away (unless they were doing a job they had to be in that spot), but he's obviously the one with more power here. It's just a stupid fight that happened in a public place that's now being spun by an influencer into more views.

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