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I'm pretty sure I've avoided this because the Sonoma update is 13GB, and my 128GB MBP only has 5-6GBs free at any time.

Now, if Apple would only let me delete those useless HEIC wallpaper images. Each of those are over 1GB in size and can't be deleted without command-line tomfoolery.

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> Now, if Apple would only let me delete those useless HEIC wallpaper images

Or upgrade the hardware you -gasp- bought.

We should also have the ability to delete included Apps I don't use. Chess, Freeform, News, Stickies, Stocks, Podcasts, Etc. I have never used these Apps yet I must have them installed on my machine.

it's a bit strange since you can remove these from iOS. I assume this is a SIP thing.

I think they can be deleted. But they are 10-50MB apps anyways, won't make a dent. Chess is 8MB on my machine.

"I think they can be deleted."

No they can not be deleted. And I am not trying to be rude, but can I ask why you would reply to a comment, and argue against it, when you yourself are unsure of the answer?

Even if they are small apps, the ~200-500mb gained might be worth it for the user above with a 128GB SSD who can't upgrade his OS due to lack of storage space. Also, I can see in Activity monitor the News App, and Podcasts app have processes running consuming my RAM, even tho I have never opened them.

it's basically an HN trope at this point. Multiple times I've posted an accurate, factual statement only to have some goober say "*akshually* I think that's wrong." At which point i have to come back and comment again, and say, "no, I'm not wrong."

and the goobers themselves could just take a few seconds to verify their claims, but yet they don’t. slinging inaccuracies as fast as possible here, seems to be their only optimization function.

i don’t get it!

Maybe you guys think so highly of yourselves? I stand by my point, it is your computer and they can be deleted. Not as easily as any other application (because they rest on the protected system volume), but you can do it nevertheless. And there can be systemwide consequences for messing with the system volume. I said "I think" because I know how macOS works. I have not personally tried it because it is a pointless exercise, they are small utilities, and you won't be able to utilize the space you gain from deleting those anyways. They reside on a read-only partition, a space that is signed for system integrity, and if they were not there, it would just be empty space that you can't use. There is no point. But YES, you can delete them. You won't gain anything by doing so, you'll just lose.

It would make no business sense to them. They sell entry level devices with tiny disk space that is practically unusable so in the end you give up and end up paying twice as much to get your work done.

I remember buying MBP 2019 for app development and not being able to upgrade Xcode which was the only app I installed on it. With every upgrade, I had to go the manual route otherwise the whole process would fail for lack of disk space. Why call the machine "Pro" at this point?

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