Comment by titzer | Hacker News Reader

Comment by titzer | Hacker News Reader

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Do not normalize surveillance because you're "too cool" for it, when really, you're just too lazy and too unimaginative to care.

Don't ever cross a government official, wittingly or unwittingly. Don't ever get in their way, even just by being an accidental obstacle. I hope you never witness a crime by a public official or get framed for one yourself. If you do witness a crime, don't testify in court! Also, you'll do well to never hold any controversial opinion whatsoever. Especially don't express one or take a public position about one. Also, I hope you have nothing of value or do anything that could potentially embarrass yourself or someone you care about. Probably best to avoid any job or position of influence that might lead to bribery or blackmail. Overall, you should probably just sit life out. Probably don't even bother registering to vote, and definitely don't vote against corrupt officials!

The ways that privacy-obliterating surveillance alter our lives by inviting corruption in the power structure are endless.

Tell them no, hell no, and fuck-you. We don't need a reason to kick them the hell out of our lives.

How is it cool? The trendy thing to do is to hate surveillance. I'm doing the uncool thing here. Hence the negative karma. You're the one acting cool.

Do you own a smart phone? If so everything I said applies to you. Those are surveillance devices.

Your language of "some HN dude" and how "he didn't see why I didn't give a shit" was condescending and borderline rude. It tends to suggest you think that everyone who cares about this is beneath you and stupid. I know you didn't say those words, but it's the impression everyone gets.

> Do you own a smart phone? If so everything I said applies to you. Those are surveillance devices.

The vast majority of people don't understand what data is collected or how it is used. Most probably wouldn't care because they've been conditioned to not care and don't have much imagination for how bad a dystopia can result if we continue to get this wrong. Most of them believe it won't affect them.

I really don't understand the motivation to loudly proclaim "I don't give a shit" and draw attention to yourself as a distraction from a very serious issue being discussed by people who actually do give a shit. Do you also show up at funerals and loudly declare "I didn't know this guy!"?

Hey didn't appreciate this comment at all. I have the right to say I don't give a shit about something and your imagined implications are just you. It was extremely insulting to compare me to a person shouting at a funeral as well. Weaponizing a person's death just to use it to make me look bad is the worst. We are done. Please Do not speak to me on this site ever again.

Nobody's death is being "weaponized". Using a funeral as an example is quite abstracted from actual death and not a rude behavior.

And yes, your comments do come across as declaring yourself "too cool" to care.

I am not acting like I'm going to a funeral and shouting nowhere near it. That is the comparison he is making and that's fucking evil.

I was at my friends funeral last month and that makes it even worse when I see this guy just casually just compare me to the situation. it's a demonstration of a complete lack of awareness of what it means to cross the fucking line. It is fucking nowhere close to it. Completely uncalled for.

If my comments come off as too cool to care maybe both of you need to assume the best. The fucking rules here literally state to assume good intentions. I quote from the rules:

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

I wasn't trying to be cool and insulting me is totally uncalled for even if it comes off that way.

I am not acting like I'm going to a funeral and shouting nowhere near it. That is the comparison he is making and that's fucking evil.

I was at my friends funeral last month and that makes it even worse when I see this guy just casually just compare me to the situation. it's a demonstration of a complete lack of awareness of what it means to cross the fucking line. It is fucking nowhere close to it. Completely uncalled for.

If my comments come off as too cool to care maybe both of you need to just leave. The fucking rules here literally state to assume good intentions. I quote from the rules:

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

I wasn't trying to be cool and insulting me is totally uncalled for.

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