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> basically the kind of immigrants every other country wants but doesn't dare say it out loud

Many nations have high standards for immigration relating to income, wealth and professional qualifications. There is absolutely nothing hush hush about it, not even remotely.

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>There is absolutely nothing hush hush about it, not even remotely.

You definitely don't live in the progressive parts of Europe. You're not allowed to say here you only want certain kinds of well off immigrant at the expense of other less well off migrants, otherwise you might be called a N*zi.

There's lots of types of immigration and you seem to be focused on only one. Also, I bet you'd find it's very easy to talk openly about immigration if you don't start with a chip on your shoulder and dropping words like "nazi", which you know is inflammatory.

Thank you for proving my point. No mater what you say or how you say it, someone will always call you out on it for being the wrong way to say it.

Sorry, but I have to agree with him as a German. The discussion climate about such topics is really rough here due to the country’s history.

You're a German person who is defending a person who chose to include the word "nazi" as the start of the conversation? That just makes people assume you find that kind of rhetoric acceptable and if that is true, then it is no wonder you can't have a decent conversation on the topic.

I don’t know, everyone but you seems to be able to have a civil discussion.

All I can say as a white Polish immigrant in Germany is that I was hit by the “Nazi club” as it’s called here a hundred times in my lifetime. No matter how mild your statement might be the Nazi insinuation comes fast. My superpower is that I can actually defend myself by saying that my ancestors were killed by Nazis, while native Germans can’t, but such a defense shouldn’t be necessary to begin with.

> You're not allowed to say here you only want certain kinds of well off immigrant

Not out loud, anyway. The Dutch have an immigration system that very much benefits well off immigrants (see the 30% rule vs agricultural immigration schemes), but yeah Wilders is considered ultra-right wing for wanting to kick out all the lower class immigrants (saying that they are all "Moroccans" doesn't help matters). Unfortunately despite him saying the quiet part out loud he got 25% of the Dutch voters to agree with him in November.

Not sure about this comment - I think you need to put up examples here. I think your comment is historically true but not up to date with current policies.

Canada, Portugal, Colombia, the US... we'd probably have an easier time making a list of nations that don't have a "pay to play" immigration scheme.

Here's a half-decent list: https://www.globalcitizensolutions.com/citizenship-by-invest...

Canada has a large swatch of categories for immigration and does not have high standards across the board.

I have no strong opinions immigration which is a hot topic currently but I do want to clarify that your assertion is incorrect.

My assertion, that most countries have criteria for immigration that involve income tests, asset tests, or skill requirements is absolutely true.

Other paths to immigration exist as well.

Your assertion is that those countries require their immigrants to go through those tests and pass and your it implies tacitly that this is for almost all immigrants who come through. However at most 50% go through that route (in Canada).

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