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I too understand this logic and follow it to the T.

You know that indie filmmaker who spent his lifesaving filming a movie I now get to watch on his dime? Well guess what.

No 4k video and no international subtitles makes that guy deserve not seeing any money come back from his hard work.

I'm not a thief. The indie filmmaker is a thief. He stole my subtitles and 4k video.

In all seriousness, I pirate shit too. But am I going to walk around like a idiot justifying what I do? No. I don't lie to myself. I don't need to twist reality in order to explain human evil which is an intrinsic aspect of all of us.

I'm a bit like a psychopath because one other intrinsic aspect of humanity is that we lie to ourselves in order to justify our sins. I don't need to do that. I can pirate shit, and recognize the sin, and then continue pirating and screwing over that indie filmmaker. An ass hole never recognizes himself as the ass hole.

Like seriously the delusions are through the roof. The guy is literally pirating shit, and then calling the party he pirates shit from an "ass hole". If he just didn't buy their content he'd have justification, but he instead pirates the content and still calls them the "arse hole". Wake up. I hate corporations but we are the ones commiting the crime here.

We are the ass holes.

"Indie filmmaker" is not going to be on Disney+ or AppleTV. If they get there, they are not "indie" anymore, by definition, they are corporate employees of a trillion-dollar corporation, and their income depends 100% on how they negotiated with the corporation and 0% on whether or not I watch that movie via AppleTV or via torrent. I have AppleTV subscription anyway (through one of the free offers) and I still may prefer to watch it via torrent because it's more convenient. So don't push that BS about robbing poor indie filmmakers. That's not what happening. What's happening is trillion-dollar corps dividing the market and trying to extract every single possible dollar of value from the clients.

> The guy is literally pirating shit,

No, he is literally not pirating anything, unless he's in Somalia and attacking a cargo ship right now. And yes, he has the full right to call the parties who produced the situation where torrenting is the most convenient way to consume content an asshole - because they are assholes. I remember the time where doing that was not necessary - to the point that I almost forgot how to do it at all - but then the assholes came and now you have to pay for 15 different services, with crappy apps and unskippable ads, so yes, it's assholery. And it has nothing to do with indie anything.

No no. If they own shit they have the right to do whatever they want. You have no right to steal their shit. They can charge 10 billion dollars for their stuff it doesn't matter.

You're a thief. Plain and simple. You just need to justify your delusion because you can't face reality.

I don't need anything like that, including paying any attention to an opinion of an internet ignoramus about what I am or am not. You can shove your moralization where the sun does not shine until you hear it click. I pointed out the deficiencies in your rants already, so I am done, and you can keep throwing names around as much as you want, nobody really cares.

Doesn't change a thing. Convenience doesn't matter. Owning a subscription and then subsequently pirating an illegal version (which I'm positive it's not all you're doing) doesn't mean fuck all. I own it, I want you to obtain said media through one venue. That's my fucking right. Even if that venue makes you jump through 30 hoops doesn't mean shit. You don't jump through the hoops your a fucking thief.

All you need to look at is the law. They'd throw you in jail if it didn't cost so much.

You're wrong about nobody caring. You care. That's why you got angry enough to reply. You feel fucking guilty and you're ashamed of being an ass hole thief. Deep down you know it and your getting angry at me because I'm deconstructing your delicately made fantasy world.

I'm the one who truly doesn't give a shit. How else can I criticize myself? I pirate without guilt. I recognize my crime but someone like you has to make up some fantasy in order to live with himself.

What gets me is when that fantasy not only validates your actions, but condemns the party you fucking stole from. That's a freaking joke. That's the epitome of delusional.

You seem to labor under the delusion that whatever is the current state of the caselaw is always the pinnacle of human moral development and doing anything any part of this vast (also incomprehensible and many times contradictory) array of regulations forbids, or failing to do anything it commands, is an ultimate moral sin because moral is whatever the local magistrate court says it is. I don't think it's the case, no matter how many ways of working the word "fucking" into a sentence you can demonstrate.

> They'd throw you in jail if it didn't cost so much.

They can throw me in jail for liking a tweet or wearing a wrong garment or ingesting a wrong plant. So what?

> You feel fucking guilty and you're ashamed of being an ass hole thief.

Thank you for telling me what I feel. How else would I find out? Please do tell me more about my feelings, I love it when people who know nothing about me still able to figure out everything about what I feel in each particular moment. They must be so smart and perceptive, it's a really enriching experience to interact with such people. My gratitude knows no bounds.

>My gratitude knows no bounds.

If I wasn't even close to being right you wouldn't even respond. It's the fact that I'm right that makes you respond. I'm right and you can't face it.

That's all.

> That's my fucking right.

Says who?

There's no natural right to copyright. It's explicitly an artificial monopoly on content.

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