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Italy: ban ChatGPT, then unban it again

Norway: buy 110k licenses

That's pretty much Europe. Drastically different mindsets from London to Istanbul and Oslo to Barcelona. Sometimes I'm surprised how EU(though a smaller subset of Europe) even manages to agree on anything.

Consensus is their core strength.

Which is being under attack by some people who want to build a hegemonic monolith dominated by few.

Sounds like the United States of America.

Is it?

A mix and match of the US immediately after the constitution was signed and the US during the Articles of Confederation is the best way to think about it

That was long ago. Europe's latest great war was like 80 years ago, the standardisation and free movement through EU and Schengen are even fresher. The language barriers aren't even lifted yet, though the young seems to be quite good with adopting English as lingua franca. Yet, most of the Europeans can't talk to each other because the older generations in general will speak the language of their neighbour only and that will be around the border regions. Some smaller countries are better though.

"European" as an identity is a rough diamond still.

Wrong comment you replied to? I was talking about the institutional setup and maybe political mechanics, not identity

apologies

Maybe that’s because in both comparisons you’ve mentioned cities not in the EU

I mentioned them due to their geographic positional extremes. Replace Istanbul with Athens, London with Amsterdam and Oslo with Stockholm ıf you want to include EU only cities and its the same thing, just slightly narrower geography. EU is a subset of Europe but its very wide subset, which includes most of the extremes.

You can get geographic extremes just with Norway.

Oslo to Kirkenes (which is further east than Istanbul).

Sure, you should write a comment using these examples. I prefer the more recognizable ones.

I do not see the contradiction. It is not so different rationale, considering that the point of purchasing a gpt3.5 license is privacy-related, as was the ban. But Italy is much bigger and less inclined towards social-spending than norway also, so yeah you would not expect it to buy such a license, especially back then.

Europe is essentially a market economy for economical and societal experiments. Ton of sovereign nations that can try out different things and the rest can see what works and what doesn't.

Too bad some people want to abuse EU to destroy this and move towards monolithic slob with little variance.

ban because it wasn't clear how they use personal data according to gdpr... it was a rather technical ban

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