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The EV market was 30% larger in 2023 than 2022.

Lagging indicator. Hertz is dumping their Teslas and canceled their purchase of 65k Polestars.

If you want to cherry-pick random anecdotes I'll counter with multi-year waitlists for Hyundai EV9 despite being expensive and ineligible for the $7500 rebate.

>Hyundai EV9 despite not being expensive

It starts at €70k. In what world is this not expensive? Maybe in Bay Area Fang wages.

Sorry, typo. It being very expensive makes the wait-lists surprising. If it wasn't expensive wait-lists wouldn't be surprising.

> It being very expensive makes the wait-lists surprising.

Does it? Ferraris, Zondas and Koenigseggs also have big waiting lists.

Expensive things to the well off sell easier than average products to the ever shrinking middle class.

I guess compared to other competing family EV-SUVs in the segment it's not too expensive. Come to think of it, there isn't any. The Rivian R1S comes close, but way more expensive and isn't really a family SUV. The EX90 is also more expensive and according to some it isn't even nearly premium.

Wait lists for a manufacturer are somewhat interesting. It's interesting that Tesla and Toyota both sell cars faster than they make them, and can get away with making new car buyers wait for months.

Wait lists for a single model? I mean, maybe Hyundai just aren't making a lot of EV9s.

Maybe EVs aren't good rental vehicles. This seems like it would be true, at least until public charging infrastructure catches up. And at the same time, maybe EV adoption is growing really fast. That also seems to be true, because the numbers say its true.

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