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I wanted to use Music on a windows PC that has a good DAC attached and I was politely told that they don't support security keys on windows.

No alternative. No 'get a code on another device', just PFO.

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Could Cider[1] be what you're looking for? It's basically a open source frontend for Apple Music that works on Linux and Windows. It's what I use to listen to my Apple Music songs on Linux, and it's amazing.

[1]: https://cider.sh/

There's a web interface that could be used, but I wanted to use the high-res mode with this DAC.

First world problems of course, but just needlessly frustrating.

They're currently working on a complete remake of Cider [1], which is "powered by Rust. With a partial shift away from Electron". That might fit your needs?

The latest release, v2.3.0, also supports forcing the player to use 256kbps[2]

[1]: https://cidercollective.itch.io/cider

[2]: https://cidercollective.itch.io/cider/devlog/674855/cider-v2...

I believe the DRM Apple adds makes the Hi-Res options exceedingly difficult to access from outside of their platform.

Cider seemed to struggle just getting the 256kbps. So getting the lossless options, are not gonna be any easier, but hopefully Cider can figure it out with time!

So I can access my Apple Music library through this?

Yup! I'm not sure about music that you've added/uploaded to your library, haven't tried that, but given that Cider "iCloud library" I would imagine that it should just work.

This app is INCREDIBLE. I have been extremely unhappy with macOS music compared to iOS and this seems to address all my use cases. thanks for sending it along :)

i wanted to love cider but it seemed like every other day i had to log back into the application and do the whole apple 2fa dance

They ground up rebuilt it a while back and it seems like they’ve fixed that issue.

You should try it with the latest version:

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/06/apple-id-security-keys-...

Thank you for finding this.

Edit: nope, "security keys not supported on icloud for windows"

Edit edit: need to first install the latest icloud for windows (which I don't want but fine). Seems to provide an auth layer so now it works.

Do you have v15 installed?

Not sure if it’s already pushed out.

> PFO

Persistent Felony Offender?

"Please fuck off"

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PFO

“Please eff off”

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