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I don't think they were thinking of Jesus as the founder of the Catholic Church. Although I think that is what the Vatican itself would say (?)

I think the Vatican's perspective would be that it's a theologically meaningless and mostly ill-formed question.

How so? Don't they derive authority from being an unbroken line back to Christ or at least St. Peter?

If we go with Constantine, I guess his strong impression would be how tame and uncommitted modern politics are.

And the money in the temple thing, too.

These can both be true.