> What's the benefit for you as a user to side with Apple on things like this?
Looking at these things as sides is a mistake. Instead of just being tribal, it's better to look positions on their merits.
Looking at these things as sides is a mistake. Instead of just being tribal, it's better to look positions on their merits.
Because it seems to be that way on MacOS. On Mac, the App Store is absolutely useless and exclusively something people do not want. It does not distribute the software users want, it charges them extra fees, and limits the type of app you distribute.
Judging by every single professional Mac user I've met, circumventing the App Store is a functional necessity for some. Most of them absolutely "put up with" the limitations and issues of MacOS.
> What about the pre-app store world made it the one preferred by consumers in your mind?
The freedom? The cheaper software? The stronger OS security models and lack of social-manipulation-as-a-security-feature?
If the post-App Store world is so great, people will keep living in it even when alternative stores exist. I suspect that most users will not give a rats ass about convenience if there's a 30% cheaper subscription elsewhere.
Bear in mind I'm replying to someone who's saying app stores aren't necessary in general:
> Well shit, what user needs an app store to begin with
Apple could sign software the same way they do on Mac and effectively turn the App Store into an IPA-downloading PWA.
I agree. English is not my main language and maybe I should have used a different word than "side".
Above someone said that this seems to be an OS problem, which should be fixed by Apple. The person I replied to said "Or they could just not."
And that's why I asked why they were siding with Apple here. What's the benefit for users if iOS doesn't work as expected when a different rendering engine is used for a web app? How is this good for EU users? I don't get it.
How do you do this when any value a "merit" could have is based in this dichotomy of vendor/user?
You might say that that's not true, and browsers are easy to secure, but that would be arguing the point on its merits. Not on the tribalist lens you're seeing this situation through.