I’ve done the other approaches for decades, specifically using NLP and classifiers to try to do these and things, my friend. It’s been a really grueling effort with little success. But as an example in the real world visible to most people, the product catalog at eBay is the end product of my work in applying NLP and classifiers at building product catalogs, ontologies, and taxonomies automatically from scrapes of e-commerce sites etc. GPT4 would have turned my job into a simple exercise in structuring the classifications. It would have completely revolutionized what I had to do.
It’s readily apparent from the pessimistic HN threads they come from people who don’t actually do these things for a living and haven’t had much real world experience. These speech patterns as you call them are the way people who “do things” differentiate from those who can’t or haven’t done things. It’s called “experience.”