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Comment by motohagiography | Hacker News Reader

motohagiography

Canada has "Crown land," which is public for people to use, but maps aren't great, and I understand that much of it is not accessible. These rules will fall, as populations shift. I live in a rural area close to a city with massive immigration (we're one the highest growth countries in the world right now), and Western norms and conventions that make rural life secure and viable, which facilitated a lot of land and public space use - are absolutely not universal.

To respond, I've just bought a drone that dissuades people from tresspassing, loitering, and lining the roadway in front of my house at night, but tech is just a temporary measure. These roaming and public space laws are at the cusp of the conflict of demographic change. Rural life is viable because of the norms around space and privacy, and if we introduce urban security issues to rural communities without also adapting the laws to mitigate their effects, it will destroy that way of life completely.

Who is “introducing urban security issues to rural communities“?

Specifically, we have groups of men driving 30 mins north of the suburbs to hang out on country back roads at night by the dozen because, in their words, "nobody lives here!" Some of their familiar cars were featured in a recent story about a large extortion racket bust. There has also been a dramatic increase in home invasions in the region, and when a group of ten men stand out in front of your house in the middle of the night when you are 20mins from the nearest town with a police station, one is reminded of simpler times.

Let alone some of the city activists literally bussing kids out of cities to cover rural areas in crappy graffiti. I have it on drone footage and even spoke with them directly. It's very much a thing. Some nonsense about "being present."

Everybody knows there is change afoot and it just needs to be managed effectively.

You seem to be using coded language, why is that?

While I don't know what that means, if it's about some political thing, I probably don't care either. There are real issues with public access to land in the UK and the rest of the world that are being forced by demographic change, and addressing them clearly will mitigate a lot of the risks associated with them.

You do seem to know what coded language is, and call it “some political thing”, why is that?

You do seem to be trolling pretty hard here, why is that?

Likely they know perfectly well that junior hockey players, farmers, and all sorts of folks have been hanging out in the country in groups of 10-20 young men for decades drinking, partying and vandalizing things. However, now that its south-asians, they are deeply uncomfortable enough to harass them with a drone, but they can't say any of that out loud.

But thats just conjecture.

When you do something because the people who resent it don't have recourse or can't defend themselves, that's abuse and predatory behavior, which is pretty sick, yet consistent with the sort of people who accuse others of racism.

It's not about race, it's about numbers, and whether they are residents or part of the communities whose space they occupy because they don't see consequences here, whereas there are consequences for them in their own communities where people know them.

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