How big is the market? Anyone even little serious about gaming will get a dedicated GPU and they can't beat it no matter how much space they use. It will have weaker cpu that will hurt in many tasks. x86 isn't big in mobile form factor.
Is that true? How are you measuring it?
A mini pc can be a good compromise but not the best at either.
This is just not true—I do the vast majority of my gaming on my laptop and only switch to the dedicated GPU for super graphics-intensive games like city skylines.
As usual, this attitude conflates "FPS-obsessed entitled divas" with "gamers"
Historically yes. You got 16gb or whatever on the card near the compute core. So what if you put 16gb of the same memory on the package with the APU instead?
Shout out to PCIe for unhelpful latency characteristics and barely adequate atomics support as my primary objection to discrete GPUs.
It's also plausible that games will become less demanding of the state of the art in GPU. If a playstation APU can play them beautifully, maybe a higher spec PC one will manage the same despite the OS and libraries overhead.
I think dedicated GPUs are probably on their way out.
I would be interested also because AMD has better support in Linux and their mobile GPUs are hard to find in laptops.
There's not that much demand for a mediocre-to-poor GPU that's more powerful than iGPUs of current era.
Ultimately we will see if/when the Strix Halo gets released, how priced it will be and how successful. I would likely buy a laptop with it.
- AM4 motherboard
- 5800X3D
- Aftermarket low profile CPU cooler
- 3600MHz 16GB RAM
- RTX 4060 Low Profile
- 2TB NVMe SSD
And it’d be smaller and much more powerful than a PS5. If you get the parts secondhand, it wouldn’t be that much more expensive either, especially once you factor in PS+ and how cheap Steam games are.
The only hairs in the soup are SteamOS and Nvidia drivers.
SteamOS doesn’t yet have a standalone install. You can work around that by installing ChimeraOS and having it launch Steam Big Picture on passwordless boot.
Nvidia currently has relatively poor open source drivers, but nvVLK is rapidly improving, with probably good performance in a year or so. Your other option is hoping AMD or a board partner release a low profile card, but I don’t see that happening. Or the dark GPU horse that is Intel.
You could also go for a larger case, which would allow you to fit a bigger GPU. Something like an AMD 6800 XT would deliver a 120FPS experience at 1440P and high/ultra settings, and do so quietly with an undervolt.