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Hey, do you happen to have any links you would recommend explaining the difference? I have been keeping my mouth shut out of respect for the fact that a closed mouth gathers no feet. I am at high risk for CFRD -- cystic fibrosis related diabetes -- which is neither type 1 nor type 2, or so I understand. I have reversed a lot of my symptoms, something doctors say cannot be done. Trying to better understand the topic.

Thanks.

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Sure - this is a pretty good explanation: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/7504.php .

tl;dr: Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disorder in which your body kills the insulin-producing cells in the pancreas, leaving you with no ability to produce insulin. Type 2 sufferers, on the other hand, can usually produce a normal amount of insulin, but their cells don't respond to it sufficiently.

Thank you. Working on reading it now.

(Though I think "auto immune disorder" is utter bullshit and generally means the same thing as the phrase "dumb luck" -- basically, that they don't really have a logical explanation.)

Generally auto immune disorder means your body is so full of toxins it can't work properly. That's why your first order of business is to cleanse it and stay away from everything your doctor says is fine: genetically modified foods, food dyes, pesticides, vaccines, fluoride, benzine and paragons in everyday products (think shampoo), artificial sweeteners, processed foods, animal protein and load up on vegetables, fruits, legumes, quinoa, super foods and antioxidants, etc. The information is out there, people just would rather listen to their doctor who will be out of a job if you just took better care of your body. There's no Spinach Foundation or Kale lobbyists paying doctor each time you walk in the door.

Me thinks you didn't bother to check my profile or you would know I run an alternative health site. While I generally agree with you, your approach is insulting, unnecessarily provocative and childish. Further, my experience is that while toxin load matters, it isn't everything. It is more complicated than that. Last, given your handle, it seems pretty clear you have an agenda. I would appreciate it if you don't drag me into your agenda. I have been whored out by other people enough in my life.

Thanks.

But "auto-immune disorder" does describe whats happening. What most doctors can't say is what causes that: so they can't say more than "dumb luck".

One explanation I've heard is leaky gut caused by grain sensitivity, followed by dairy proteins leaking out, causing the immune response, which then mistakes the pancreas which has similar looking proteins. I don't know how much evidence there is for that.

But there are causes for leaky syndrome and they are treatable. And leaky gut at least tells you descriptively what is happening. Auto immune simply assumes the body mysteriously attacks itself, for no apparent reason.

Anyway, thank you for the feedback. It fits with some things I know and is something I can follow up on.

Why do you think "mysteriously" is part of the definition of auto-immune? If we don't know what causes a particular auto-immune response doesn't make it not auto-immune.

My condition gets referred to that way. It doesn't make sense to me as a mental model. Unfortunately, I have had a really long day so probably cannot explain my views in an effective manner.

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