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Comment by purewater | Hacker News Reader

Isn't $79k somewhat offensive for a software engineer? At a time when new college grads are making well over $150k their first year?

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One assumes there is a tacit acknowledgement being made that the "product" here is not a 100% substitute for, I don't know, a 2350 SAT Stanford undergrad who has been programming since the age of 6. That may or may not be rational discounting.

On the plus side: someone who is both a) a productive engineer and b) not as abominably terrible at negotiating as the typical engineer will, two years out of this program, be able to lateral into an intermediate engineer position at their next company for a compensation package worth north of $150k.

(P.S. Folks who think purewater or I are grossly off the mark for current conditions in Silicon Valley may wish to take a few people on coffee dates. What you learn will buy an awful lot of lattes.)

Seriously? Entry level devs make $150k?

Yes, ask any Facebook/Google new grad. Standard offer is $100k base salary + $15k bonus + $30k stock a year + $XXk signing bonus.

Thats after 4 years of education at a top school. This was free, and only lasted 10 weeks. In 4 years they will probably get at least 150k

You are correct, but the average is closer to $80k with all the smaller companies.

Median entry level salary for SOMA area is around $68k. Not sure if comparing to the Facebook/Google entry level is the best comparison to draw.

> Yes, ask any Facebook/Google new grad.

What percent of new grads work at Facebook/Google, do you reckon?

Where can I find these $150k jobs? I graduate next year.

It may already be too late. The folks snapping up these jobs have top-tier CS degrees, move to the valley, and most importantly have 2+ internships at major internet companies (Amazon, Google, FB, MS, etc.). You may be able to sidestep some of that if you publish some amazing products or OSS in the next 12 months.

...in 10 weeks. Not years.

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