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Not the intended audience I guess. I wonder whether one can use this to learn Forth. The free-to-evaulate Forth SwiftForth has a Starting Forth book. Can there be something like a tutorial like that. Those comments does not run here (and SwiftForth is 32 bit not running on my Mac Arm BookAir 15.

e.g. if you try https://www.forth.com/starting-forth/11-forth-compiler-defin...

```

    (: VARIABLE ( -- ) CREATE 0 , ;

    word not found: VARIABLE

    word not found: --

    word not found: CREATE

    word not found: ,

   )

```

This is not ANSI Forth? And one cannot just start to use like any Forth?

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Konilo is not an ANSI Forth. It's a unique dialect with similarities to my older RetroForth system, which is also not a traditional model.

In Konilo, that example would look like:

  :variable d:create #0 comma ;

and using it would appear as:

  'ORANGES variable

While much of the system is complete, documentation has been lacking, partly due to me not investing much time on this while things were evolving. Now that it's stable, I am working on this, and have added some information to the manual (see https://konilo.org/manual) to help clarify that it's not a traditional Forth model.

Thanks. It is great as I can run under my ipad both pythoista and ish even. But changing the basic syntax will be hard for beginner. May I suggest have some tutorial. In particular for both external (say vim or any external shell script) and internal (hoe to use any editor and save the current work in progress) use. I found it hard even to navigate under your hypertext, sorry …

Thank you for the feedback.

I'm hoping to have the documentation considerably improved over the remainder of the year. Apart from the current work on the hypertext manual, a larger book format manual and tutorial are being worked on, though they're both very incomplete at present.

On the internal/external bits, Konilo is largely intended to be a self contained environment, but it is possible to use in some contexts with outside tools. I'll write up something on this in the next few days and will post a reply in this thread with a link once it's done.

I wrote a short article on interfacing with Konilo using external tools. It's at https://konilo.org/articles/interfacing-with-konilo.txt

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