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When young men are falling behind on basically every metric, not hard to understand they feel resentment. Whatevers happening currently isn't working for most of us.

Career wise, dating wise, education wise...

And for women the progress they have made in the recent history, at least, feels like it has been working for them. So of course they vote for more of the same.

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Well, it seems that equality movements have become near inseparable with shaming the generic man, and have gone beyond equality into tribalism. And this is true not just for gender "equality" either. All these movements, while originating from a place of good, have essentially become a political means to form cliques to grab a large piece of the capitalistic pie, where in reality we should be looking at how to take down traditional capitalism for the greater good for all.

> ...falling behind on basically every metric... [emphasis mine]

I'm thinking that some of the exceptions - domestic violence, workplace sexual harassment, feeling safe in public places, access to reproductive health care, etc. - are both very serious, and intense emotional button-pushers. Try asking a few good fathers of younger daughters for their own PoV on that kinda stuff?

Bigger picture - both the press and social media seem intent on casting the whole problem as a one-dimensional battle of the sexes. If a problem this complex can't be cast at least as "you want X, Y, and Z; they want U, V, and W" - then I'd figure that the folks controlling the conversation really want an endless angry fight and dystopian future.

You just mentioned a bunch of areas on which women have (fortunately) made incredible progress in the past few decades. Some of these achieved mostly by voting left-leaning. So it makes sense to me that women want to keep voting that way as they have seen progress.

To a very mild degrees, yes. If women feel themselves stuck in a society dominated by a one-dimensional, "war of the sexes" worldview, and their voting choices are similarly crap - then their less-bad option will kinda tend to look like "vote left-wing".

But (per Wikipedia) the "womens' vote" in the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election was 54:41 for Clinton:Trump. Suggesting that any worldview or analysis that tries to treat women as some sort of monolith is utterly delusional.

Or maybe the pro-war factions on each side could try to reclassify women who voted "the wrong way" as "WINO's"?

EDIT: If this is insufficiently obvious - "to a very mild degree" refers to the voting patterns of women. Vs. all the rhetoric which seems to portray women as a monolith (which is blatantly counter-factual).

> To a very mild degrees, yes.

To a degree that young women are wildly more successful than men. They practically rocketed past them in just a few decades.

Don't pretend this is "mild" success. It detracts from your own argument by making it look like you're not arguing in good faith.

Other exceptions: ability to play sports, video games (from basic shooters to complex strategy 4X) and use GNU/Linux

(Cis girls are >50% of the US population; trans girls are ~1% of the population (generous); 99% of girls on Linux are trans. Js)

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