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Cocoa is having an even more dramatic rise in price[0], blasting through record highs right now, likewise related, primarily, to climate change.

0. https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/cocoa

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That is an insane price spike for cocoa. 239% price increase YoY!

The link you cited references El Niño bringing heavy rains and spreading "black pod disease," neither of which are caused by climate change.

The severity of the rains brought by El Niño is related to climate change, and the rains themselves are the causal reason for the increase in black pod disease.

We've had plenty of El Niño in the past, but no such extreme spikes.

Once again, it seems that people who don't want to see climate change will not see it no matter how striking the evidence.

My understanding is the frequency and intensity of El Nino is directly related to climate change.

Arguing lack of one-to-one causation is really tone-deaf if you've been following the climate change conversation for any time now.

Climate change is affected by multiple factors...

Climate change is everything and nothing, it's so insidious that you can't predict it accurately nor measure it at a short time-scale yet it uniquely explains recent and regular weather events and spikes in commodity prices. Might as well blame everything on witches.

False dichotomy, appeal to ridicule, and generalizations about climate change science in two sentences is impressive.

Honestly one of the worst arguments I've read this year. Might be the witches talking though.

My post has none of that, and your lazy clichés were completely off base in your previous post as well, though I didn't point that out in my own reply to give you the benefit of the doubt and avoid making it personal. It seems you feel differently, as you've said nothing of substance and persist with lazy smearing attempts instead of engaging in faithful discussion. Based on past experience with that attitude, I don't think you understand much of anything about climate.

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