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Even Tesla is pretty much a Chinese made car outside of Europe and the USA markets nowadays. eg. They pretty much stopped importing USA made Tesla's into Australia now that their China factory has ramped up for example.

So one of your two 'not China' examples is actually China.

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By that logic the Toyotas and Volkswagens sold in the US are American cars. Or the iPhone is a Chinese phone. While the place of manufacturing is interesting, it's not what people usually mean when they talk about the author's origin.

If anything, declaring location of manufacture by the location of the corporate headquarters rather than the factory obfuscates very valuable information, arguably to the point of misleading marketing.

There is value in easily learning that the majority of Toyotas sold in the US are American cars, that almost all computers (desktops, laptops, smartphones, tablets) are Chinese or Taiwanese, and so on.

Absolutely. Especially when, in the US, the whole point of mentioning a company's country of origin is as political capital in a conversation about manufacturing jobs.

When taking into account that Toyota and Honda manufacture their cars here, it becomes clear the argument is not for the benefit of the working class but for the owning class (c-suite and shareholders).

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