An I say "reasonable" intentionally vague because there are degrees of car dependency that varies between regions. On average, I believe Europe might be closer to banning private cars. USA I would bet not so much.
It's a bit dishonest to argue for continued car dominance just because it's already status quo.
You: it's not the world we live in right now
Which is a useless retort.
And work the first 25 days out of each month month to pay for it, LOL.
As for stores, suburbanites will still go to the a cheaper, larger store with more selection. That's usually in the same suburb, but still a good drive.
If better options were available, people would choose those. When we don't make better options because people are stuck in a local optima of car culture, there is no change. My point was what I wrote: you can't make a comparison with less cars as if everything else in society would have remained equal. Of course there would be secondary effects to handle the fact that people would have to live and travel differently.
You don't get to call people "dishonest", tell them to "f off", call them "shitty", then get pious and offended when someone takes exception to that.
> We do better here on HN, as a long term member I'm disappointed in your behavior.
You've been here since 2013. I've been using this account since 2010 so you can "f off" with that, too.
> If better options were available, people would choose those.
"Better" according to who? You?
If people can't get food, they start eating rats and shoe leather. It doesn't make it "better".
The point was that I expected better from _you_, a long standing member here. But your response again shows I need to adjust that expectation.
Exhaust. Oil. Tire wear microplastics.