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I logged in solely to say that Kate was the main reason I stuck with KDE as my desktop environment, back in the KDE 3 days. I switched to Mac some time ago but I still use Kate as my editor. I'm happy that it still exists.

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Kate on MacOS is terrible. I've tried helping them fix the shortcuts which are all "wrong" (MacOS uses certain shortcuts that are unlike most Unix systems, but Kate doesn't actually use the right ones all Mac users expect so it's a nightmare until you manually override at least some of the shortcuts yourself). I tried using the build tool (suggested in the article) but building Kate was a nightmare even with that... I had to give up after a few days trying random things as suggested by people on the Kate chat (each build was taking hours, then finally failing with some completely inscrutable error).

Even though I really enjoyed using Kate on Linux, as a mainly Mac user I had to forget about it and keep using emacs for random stuff, and IntelliJ for Java/Kotlin/Groovy/Dart and anything else well supported by Jetbrains.

That sounds more like switching to macos being terrible. If I am used to kate on linux, windows,..., then I expect it to just work if someone hands me a mac with kate.

If you additionally want mac-style shortcuts as an option that is fine, but defaults should be consistent.

There's no app that uses the same shortcuts in all OSs because that's just stupid (amongst other reasons, because the shortcuts would conflict with the OS's own shortcuts, just to mention one obvious reason). You need to default to the OS's defaults, and maybe have an option to try using another OS's defaults (like other IDEs do).

Kate not just uses the same shortcuts everywhere. But you are right that it has issues to be properly adjusted to macOS.

On my Mac Mini I used for the screenshot I just followed the linked howto (one can even just use the system Python with the latest macOS)

https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/development/Mac

And yes, that needs initial effort, that is true. One can for sure improve this, but that needs volunteers.

Let me just call bullshit on that

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/157179?hl=en&co=GEN...

Wow, ctrl+p instead of boxy thing+p, such difference.

You keep making low effort comments that add nothing to the conversation. What are you trying to accomplish?

Have you actually tried using Kate on MacOS?

I have , and as I said, I even tried to help them use the correct defaults because it's completely unusable with the shortcuts they ship with.

IIRC, you came around in the kate channel on the matrix. Unfortunately you gave up really close to getting the build successful :)

I did try to help as much as I could, but I am no Craft expert myself and we were transitioning to Qt6 at that time so things were more difficult than usual. Should be a lot easier now I think if you want to try.

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