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So I have to be ready to react to a mistake the car is making, not having any insight into the thought process of the car. I have to be a constantly vigilant backseat driver.

Am I on the hook for accidents?

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This is L3, so you don’t have to constantly supervise like you do a Tesla with FSD (L2). Mercedes even says you can watch movies or read books. They will achieve a minimum safety condition on their own, which for this system is stopping in the lane with hazard lights on. They also say they will take liability provided you haven’t misused the system or failed to properly maintain the car.

But L3 has this grey area where you can be notified to take over with sufficient time. IMO, It’s the most ambiguous level of automation. How this will work in practice, I have no idea.

am I the only one in the comment section that thinks this sounds great for commuting in heavy traffic at low speeds, which is the absolute most miserable type of driving?

ya sound of an alarm when we get through the traffic and I can actually drive, fine with me, I'll play on my phone

What I read is that you have to be able to take over within ten seconds. That's not very long if you have become absorbed in something else.

10 seconds is absolutely a long enough time to context switch

>They also say they will take liability provided you haven’t misused the system or failed to properly maintain the car.

There's debate about this:

http://safeautonomy.blogspot.com/2023/09/no-mercedes-benz-wi...

In theory the point of this system, unlike level 2 systems, is that you _don't_ need to do that. Of course, not having used it, I can't comment on how successful it is.

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