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"If you cannot make a web application work without JS, it doesn’t belong on the web."

Except this often means Electron. Dunno which is worse.

Electron is worse. At least Javascript was designed and meant for the web. The millions of dollars and hours of effort put into getting Javascript to act like C++ and replacing native apps with Chromium wrappers has been a disaster both for programming as a discipline and the end user.

Although I would disagree with the initial premise, too. Javascript has been a part of the web for nearly 30 years now. Pretending it doesn't belong there at this point and ranting about other people finding it useful is just infantile.

It really is more related to Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap). My complaints are about that 90%, not the 10% that actually is done well.

I don't get it. Who gets to say which 10 % ain't crap?

Anyone. Sturgeon's Law isn't a rigidly defined, mathematically provable statement of objective fact, it's a science fiction author's subjective defense of the quality of work in their chosen genre relative to the mainstream when told that "90% of science fiction is crap." It isn't even strongly related to the Pareto principle, despite superficial similarities, nor is it necessarily universally applicable. At the very least the specific term of "90%" can be interpreted as "most," and of course "crap" is a matter of opinion and taste.

So if you disagree, fine. It's not like you're disagreeing with gravity or something.

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