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Why? Society doesn’t owe you acceptance for your personal choices. For the vast majority of people, smoking marijuana is an anti-social choice that makes them a less productive member of society. Why should anyone have something other than a negative opinion of such a choice?

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Judging people is wrong. This isn't a controversial statement.

"Wrong" is a judgment. Why are you judging people for judging people?

If you're arguing that judging people is ok, I think you could do a better job than tu quoque.

"You judged someone on a separate occasion, so you can't object to judging people now" would be tu quoque. What I actually did was point out the internal contradiction in your stated position.

Sorry, I just don't think that arguing that it's ok to judge people is viable. It seems to be very important to you, however.

I've said a total of four sentences on the matter, none of which hinted at its importance or lack thereof to me, so it's interesting that you've come to that conclusion. Either way, my internal motivations are a non sequitur. You are continuing to take a self-contradictory position by stating that a certain behavior, namely judgment, is not "ok", which constitutes a judgment. You have offered no defense of doing so. Should I conclude that you simply believe that oxymoronic positions can in fact be correct?

No it's not. Judging people is extremely important in order to enforce social conformity and norms. It's how we as social animals maintain civilization.

Please tell me more about your desire to “civilize” people through conformity to your chosen social norms

What if being productive to society is actually harmful?

It's not. It's why you're not living in a hut, or worse.

Those who build weapons to kill children, then, are productivity heroes.

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