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The next version could be what happens as alpha approaches exactly 1/137.

My understanding (as a layperson) is that if the fine structure constant changes even a little bit, you basically don’t have atoms or molecules as we understand them. So the game would be something like:

a=1/1: Nothingness as far as the eye can see

…

a=1/136: Nothingness as far as the eye can see

a=1/137: BOOM! Life, the universe and everything

Maybe I’m off, and maybe I have the numbers backwards (again, I’m a layperson), but I feel like the speed of light may be an unusual case among universal constants in that you can actually show an interesting gradient of effects as it changes.

That is not how I remember physics (former PhD student here): The speed of light has a dimension, so it in itself does not change physics (thought experiment: everybody switches to feet-per-decade as the unit of choice, nothing really changes). It is the dimensionless constants that determine the real physics.

Have not heard the statement that is alpha was a tiny factor larger/smaller that would make atoms no longer exist. It's this were true, this would actually be a way to actually calculate it from first principles ('at which value of alpha are there solutions to this equation'). Edit: typo

Your memory is playing tricks on you.

The speed of light does change physics, as does any fundamental constant. Expressing a speed in different units does indeed yield different numbers, but that is not equivalent to a change of speed.

Changing alpha means that electromagnetic force get stronger or weaker, thus the atoms still exist but with different orbital levels. Considering how intricate the orbital levels of atoms are, it's not shocking that a tiny change in alpha completely redefines chemistry, but chemistry would still exist.

The point is that all of the speeds we measure are actually measured in units of the speed of light, if you go right down to it (seconds and meters are defined in terms of the speed of light). So, the value of the speed of light doesn't really matter - which is why c=1 is often used in many kinds of physics.

When people talk about changing the speed of light, they’re obviously not talking about that sort of bookkeeping.

The fine structure constant is dimensionless and would be different if c were different. When doing a unit conversion, one also has to alter other constants so as to be consistent with observed reality; whether one alters other constants or not is the difference between talking about a change in units and a change in c.

From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant and following further links:

  4*π*ε_0*ħ*c*α = e^2

e is the charge, h is the Planck constant, ε_0 is the electric constant

However, h is heavily related to c with

  E (photon energy) = h*c/λ

where λ is wavelength. And,

  ε_0 = 1 / (μ_0*c^2)

where μ_0 is the magnetic constant, and is determined experimentally as 4π × 1.00000000055(15)×10−7 H⋅m−1.

A Kibble balance (dog food?) has become an instrument for measuring weight from a known current, rather than measuring current from a known weight.*

It looks like this still doesn't cancel out? It's an interesting point as to whether our hypothetical change in c would affect the relationship between photon energy and wavelength, but either way we get a nonzero power of c.

There is the Hoyle state, a peculiar resonance state that is very important for nucleosynthesis. Without it, stars would not produce a lot of carbon. It appears to be finely tuned for complex chemistry and thus life to evolve.

Wikipedia says the the strong force must be within 0.5% of some value and the finestructure constant within 4%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_universe#Carbon_and...

Not an expert here, what is alpha ?

It might be a more fundamental constant than the speed of light as it relates the properties of space time and energy.

At some point if you change the speed of light the information exchange inside of atoms would be disrupted and the system collapses.

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