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I am far from a free-speech absolutist, but yes, free speech means free from consequences. What else could it mean? Even the worst dictatorship can't stop you from speaking... the first time.

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If you're "far from a free speech absolutist," then by definition you accept that free speech should have consequences. And even most self-described free speech absolutists agree on some acceptable consequences, like incitement to violence, perjury and slander.

And not all consequences are legal. Human beings are social animals and consequences have always existed for violating common norms and taboos. Go into a synagogue and start handing out copies of Mein Kampf and see what happens.

I'm arguing with the canned sentence because it's stupid and mealy-mouthed. I think some speech should have consequences. I'm not hypocritical enough to think it's still free speech, though.

If I lie about you or your company in my newspaper causing you financial or other harm should I not face consequences such as a lawsuit or should I be allowed to destroy your life consequence free because I feel like it?

What about if I lie about my product and you use it and it fails to deliver, or causes you direct harm? Should I be allowed to do that?

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