Heh. The spite wars continue. I’m sure this will earn you a lot of favor, Apple.
Or being part of a nefarious botnet "surviving"?
Or accidentally installing keyloggers "surviving"?
It's a matter of tradeoffs. In exchange for making more security decisions for yourself, you wind up with a much higher risk of losing your data and privacy. So it's important to acknowledge what you're giving up as well.
And Apple isn't exactly a "random tech company". It's currently literally the third largest company in the world [1]. That's about as opposite of being a "random" company as a company can possibly be.
In contrast, it's precisely the software that people do install from seeming "random tech companies" that can conceal secret keyloggers, etc.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_corporations_by...
But no, I wouldn't call it "surviving" if you get hit by ransomwhere and have to pay hundreds/thousands of dollars to restore your data, or lose your data.
Pegasus?
Seriously, what kind of fearmongering can Apple push that doesn't make you side-eye the OpenAI integration even more?
Right - which is why the ChatGPT integration is such a small part of the total Ai/LLM capabilities they announced, and they've loudly and publicly announced that it will support other 3rd parties in the future.
Buuuuut - what happens if/when the EU decides the DMA requires Apple to open up their Private Cloud and on-device models to 3rd party replacement?
Some of them might be worse for privacy, but if they offer better (or cheaper, which can be a quality) features, that's up to people.
If this was "the olden days", it would be a legitimate concern. But mobile OSs have long forced Apps to request permission to use various features explicitely and fall back graciously when some aren't provided. So outside security concerns that exist either way, they really can only claim to care about misinformed users.
Recall was seen as 1st party spyware, Apple has more privacy trust and their implementation is very secure. Allowing Bob's AI screen reader to access the same total file/device access is very scary.
If you don't look at Recall and Apple Intelligence with the same suspicion, you're stupid. Currently they are literally the same product, rebranded and marketed to different users. Two data pipes leading to one company's pool. But Apple's pipe is safer because... they have more "privacy trust" and Twitter says their whitepaper looks secure. You're being robbed in plain daylight and defending the robber; the implications of both features are disastrous.
Then I don't see why people are defending the opposite statement, preemptively.
> Buuuuut - what happens if/when the EU decides the DMA requires Apple to open up their Private Cloud and on-device models to 3rd party replacement?
Literally nothing bad? If Apple implements all of these third-party models the same as their first-party ones, I think that would be awesome. People could replace Siri with Mistral and start getting useful results back instead of the same canned responses.
Didn’t they say they have models running on-device?
I think they're more motivated by trying to scaremonger about the DMA, in much the same way they and others did about GDPR.
I'm not being snarky but you should be celebrating this since it's working as intended. I think it's a healthy sign when big tech companies are forced to a take pause before releasing a feature to masses.
There are consequences to regulations/legislation. You can't have it both ways. News at 11...
The privacy concerns are real, and EU regulations have teeth. No matter how iron-clad Apple's agreement is with OpenAI, it's still a significant liability since data protection and the rest that comes with this tech is outside of Apple's control. So now EU citizens don't get to play with this new feature. It's pretty simple.
As someone who has been involved in this journey from the beginning, essentially starting from a point akin to "fuck the EU, they're laughably ignorable" it's really interesting to read this sentence. We can work with that.
If you don't have a physical presence within the EU, you can and probably should ignore their laws/regulations. There's very little if anything they can do to you. This includes GDPR and other "viral" laws. EU citizens seem to believe their laws apply around the world - they do not.
If you have a physical presence within the EU, like Apple does, then you cannot afford to be flippant with EU laws and regulations. They have real teeth, as you would expect for any country you have a physical presence in. Just as Apple cannot ignore US law since they are based here, they cannot ignore EU law since they are also based there.
EU regulations have consequences - both good and bad. If Apple cannot guarantee compliance with EU regulations/laws, then they will have to remove or limit features that might get them into trouble.
If EU citizens want this feature, then the regulations would need to change. It cannot be more simple than this.
A lot of people enjoy eating the cake these days...
Not arguing against that. The first thing is to be able to steer. And then you can steer in the right direction. So I'm glad it seems we'll finally be able to steer. Now we can figure out where exactly we want to end up.