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> Doctors, did not .. The reason, the person who discovered it was a vet.

You’re wildly incorrect, nobody involved was a vet.

Barry Marshall shared that Nobel and is a Doctor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Marshall

Robin Warren received his M.B.B.S. an undergraduate degree focused on medical research. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Warren He worked at: “SA Pathology, (formerly the Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science (IMVS)), is an organisation providing diagnostic and clinical pathology services throughout South Australia for the public health sector.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA_Pathology

So whatever source you read that misinformation from is not trustworthy.

> Opioids where addictive

Hindsight bias here. We don’t want medical professionals to discard new information in favor of older treatments. There’s no way doctors can on their own replicate the medical research linking Ulcers with a bacterial infection and independently judge oxycodone’s effectiveness, and a dozen other drugs etc. Extended-release (ER) oxycodone was literally a new drug and described as not having the same issues associated with other Opioids on labeling approved by the FDA.

The crazy thing is how effective this all was. Medical schools were teaching students to hand out more opioids.

Chinese emporers were controlling opiates all the way back in the 1700s and the British were tied up in war for 20 years over the wreckage to the Chinese addicts.

The doctors, all college educated, some of our most studied and intelligent citizens, they knew about the history of opiates and im not talking about the dare campaign. I knew before the epidemic even got into force when I tossed the opiates I was prescribed in the trashcan.

The oxy marketing was just the wink and the nod everybody needed to convince themselves to parrot with a straight face, but they didn't actually really believe it.

This wasn’t just marketing, this was drug labeling approved by the FDA and new guidelines for pain management they where teaching in med schools.

It's a valid point. Another valid point is at that time it was known the FDA had a history of approving addictive drugs. It is not evidence based to trust FDA over hundreds of years of history countering otherwise. I knew LOTS of people who turned down or tossed opiate scripts during that time because the long history was obvious to anyone with half a brain.

Yep, many people knew all along. Many didn't know, but doctors of all people had no excuse to be among the not knowers.

“Tied up in a war” is a funny way to say “aggressively breaking Chinese law in order to hook local populations, make tons of drug money, and collapse public order.”

The Opium Wars were a cynical prototype for the modern war on drugs, which was initiated with similar designs and outcomes.

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