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I’m still waiting for Ukrainian keyboard.

How hard can it be to get the mappings for all keyboards from gnome or somewhere and apply whatever unicode symbol during the engraving process ?

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You can always buy a blank keyboard and add stickers yourself

I am thinking about leaving it blank tho, looks way cooler hehe

I've tried that before, and I've not been able to find stickers that will last long (trust me, you'll have sweaty fingers from time to time). A better solution is to use a white permanent marker on the keys instead. It doesn't last, obviously, but it doesn't make it awkward to type, and you can just re-apply it as the keys lose their labels.

Have the same issue with portuguese keyboards while working as expat. Only other option was memorizing the keys. :-(

It still won't be permanent, but water-slide decals will probably work better than stickers, and about as well as the marker while being more legible. It might also be possible to put a clear coat paint on it that'll help them last longer.

The big advantage over stickers is that they aren't held on by glue, but instead by the plastic that they're made out of conforms to the surface and grips it instead. That said I'm not sure how to make white text for a black keyboard.

I don't really understand the complaint about labels, it's not that hard to learn the keys.

I am with you: i am using a custom French layout, so the labels don't match anyway

I don't look at keys for the last 15 years, I just want them to be in Ukrainian.

On my keyboard (not a Frame.work), the only letters that are still readable are Q, Y, U, J, Z anyway. The rest are worn down, some with nail striations in the plastic... I'm not sure how cool it looks, but clearly I manage without the labels.

Are there any stickers that don't fuck with backlight?

Ironic that Apple can serve you just such a keyboard. Proper Ukrainian, not "well but actually it's Russian".

Note it's their Magic keyboards, not laptops.

Speaking of engraving, I have access to a 150W co2 laser cutter, is it possible to engrave with it on a blank keyboard?

They do sell blank ANSI and ISO keyboards and it seems like others have been able to successfully engrave them.

https://community.frame.work/t/blank-keyboard-laser-etching/...

At 150W you'd send the keycaps into the next dimension.

Of course I wouldn't be engraving plastic at full power. If I do end up getting a Framework I'd get an extra blank keyboard to dial in the settings

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