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You seem to be trying to conflate blocking a road and honking your horn with violence... In order to defend fucking with non-violent protesters bank accounts directly (and very illegally).

Lots of people claimed that anyone who didn't respect lockdowns and wear masks were being "violent" - is that what you're trying to do here?

> If you're actually good, then people will have a positive opinion of you and your goals.

Lol. I really don't know how anyone could say that with a straight face. Was MLK popular with people who thought segregation was cool and fun?

Or is your argument that he was wrong to act as he did...

Is Trump "actually good" because people love him?

That logic ain't logicing man. Idk where you got that idea but it isn't explaining reality very well is it.

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> You seem to be trying to conflate blocking a road and honking your horn with violence... In order to defend fucking with non-violent protesters bank accounts directly (and very illegally).

Do you want your movement to succeed? If yes, then don't piss off the non-members / the general public, and try to get them on your side.

That is what MLK understood and did.

That is what Nelson Mandela did not understand when he was young (when he did acts that caused him to go to jail), but did understand when he was older.

It is also what Ghandi (who also spent in jail) understood.

>“We do not need allies more devoted to order than to justice,” Martin Luther King, Jr.

What justice was the trucker convoy looking for? What injustice were they fighting against? What grave depravity had they long suffered against?

You are quoting from "Letter from a Birmingham Jail", which also states:

> In any nonviolent campaign there are four basic steps: collection of the facts to determine whether injustices exist; negotiation; self purification; and direct action.

* https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham....

The convoy did not do the first three steps, or if they did, they did not effectively show the public that they did.

From my perspective (or "my truth" as the kids are wont to say these days) they were a bunch of anti-vaxxers railing against da gubermint.

While that can be your truth, it may be worth re-evaluating because it is not reflecting reality, then:

> In August 1963, Gallup found considerable public opposition to the now-famous civil rights march on Washington in which King delivered his "I Have a Dream" speech. The poll was conducted about two weeks before the march, at which time 71% were familiar with "the proposed mass civil rights rally to be held in Washington, D.C., on Aug. 28." Of those who were familiar, only 23% said they had a favorable view of "the rally"; 42% had an unfavorable view of it (including 7% who predicted violence would occur) and 18% said it wouldn't accomplish anything. [0]

[0] https://news.gallup.com/poll/103828/civil-rights-progress-se...

— or now:

> What is also clear is that sympathy with the movement is no longer at a point where the minority, which has been categorized as being on the fringes, is grossly overshadowed by the majority. A sizeable minority of Canadians (37%) agree (16% strongly/21% somewhat) that while they might not say it publicly, they agree with a lot of what the truck protestors are fighting for [1]

[1] https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/news-polls/nearly-half-say-they-...

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