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> Writing GUI apps is painful everywhere, and has been for years.

I think UIKit and SwiftUI (and to a lesser extent Appkit) are great

Oddly AppKit seems to be one of the most stable desktop frameworks I have worked with. They've made breaking changes, sure, but they haven't been rewriting, and rewriting, and rewriting the same stuff for the last decade and a half.

The situation on Windows these days feels like... cognitive dissonance. If given a Windows app assignment today, I'd pick WinForms if less complicated, WPF if a larger project.

AppKit is very stable yes but it shows its age a little more than UIKit. As you say still better than anything Microsoft can offer

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