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Yes, you can buy chemical extractions of not delta-9 cannabinoids that might make you a little almost high.

It will make you very high. Not necessarily in the same manner or experience that "normal cannabis" does but most of those products do contain synthetic terpenes and isomers of delta-9 or what they market as "delta-10" or other product names. Paired with CBD in the admixture they can approximate the natural cannabis experience

Can somebody else confirm this? This stuff was and sometimes still is freely available in Europe, and so is CBD in various forms.

At the end I don't care what chemicals do get mixed but trips from THC substitutes are not the same and not only for me subpar to the point of ignoring it (closer to being dizzy from alcohol than fun creative weed, also tolerance seems to be built much faster).

delta-8 tends to be more mild than delta-9, but it definitely does the job. the bigger issue with delta-8 is you can only find it in extract form (i.e. vape pens), and it's hard to find a quality brand that doesn't taste like shit.

another issue the article doesn't mention is the thca loophole.

the farm bill only concerns itself with straight delta-9 thc, and as it turns out most weed has very little delta-9.

most weed is high in thca and fairly low in delta-9 thc. the thc-a is converted to delta-9 thc through decarboxylation by heat -- when you smoke, vape, or cook the flower, the thc-a become delta-9 thc.

because of this, i can visit a hemp shop here in indiana where i buy what seems to just be plain old weed of pretty decent quality. it's labeled as thc-a and costs about $250/oz.

Just drive to michigan and get the real deal for like half the price

i mean, it's a 9 minute round-trip to the hemp shop, vs just shy of 9 hours round-trip to the nearest weed shop in michigan. the thc-a super silver haze i'm smoking now is indistinguishable from a solid mid-tier sativa found in any recreational state weed shop. the prices here are on-par with washington and way less than california.

There's tons of delta 8, 10 and 11 vapes flooding gas stations and smoke shops, my feeling is that they only provide about 30-60% of the intensity and duration as 9 does. If it's named "Chapo" it has to be good, right?

I don't agree. Delta 9 is restricted for a reason.

Not sure I follow. What are you suggesting?

As TFA points out, you can also buy edibles and drinks with chemical extractions of delta-9 THC too. They are widely available, accept major credit cards, and ship to all states.

Yes. In concentrations up to .3%. Which is useless.

consuming a 2g gummy which is .3% d9 THC is a dose of 6mg, which is small, but a real dose, especially for a non-regular user

And for size reference, 1g is pretty close to the weight of a single M&M. My homemade caramels, which I consider to be plenty strong, are definitely weaker than .3%, judging by the effects.

.3% THC-delta9 by weight for a large item is not insignificant.

E.g., a 100g chocolate bar could have up to 300mg, no?

As the article points out, you can have 30mg of THC in a 10g gummy and get perfectly blasted

You can. I've wasted enough money to know better.

From TFA:

>Hemp-based intoxicants aren’t limited to delta-8 THC. The Farm Bill also appears to authorize the creation of hemp-based delta-9 THC products as long as the total delta-9 content is 0.3 percent or less of the product’s dry weight. This turns out to be easy to do. Carolindica, for instance, sells a 10-gram gummy that contains 30 milligrams of hemp-derived delta-9 THC, which is exactly 0.3 percent of the gummy’s total weight. The Florida-based company Crispy Blunts sells a cookie that weighs 22 grams and contains 50 milligrams of delta-9 THC. At 0.23 percent by weight, that’s well under the Farm Bill’s threshold, but the total THC content is five to 10 times as high as the legal per-serving limit in many of the states that have legalized recreational-marijuana edibles.

Respectfully, you do not seem well informed on this matter.

THCA, when decarbed, will convert into regular THC. A good chunk of what you are smoking with "regular" marijuana was likely THCA when on the flower, particularly if it is relatively fresh.

I've been smoking for decades. The THCA products will get you just as high as a similarly potent strain of recreational stuff in a legal state.

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