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> does not result in a favorable outcome for society

That's your respectable opinion, but the truth is: we don't know!

You may be right, you may be wrong, but this is the crux of the discussion and you cannot swipe it off by stating an opinion as a fact.

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Agreed. Thnks for pointing that out. I still didn't get around studying all those fallacies and how to argue logically. I should learn about one per day and find an example when the fallacy becomes a non-fallacy.

But isn't it a measurable factor? ... people get free stuff, people don't question their benefactor, people agree to rely on him, people become dependent beyond the extent of constructive codependence

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