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2024 Q1: “we recorded one crash for every 7.63 million miles driven in which drivers were using Autopilot technology. For drivers who were not using Autopilot technology, we recorded one crash for every 955,000 miles driven. By comparison, the most recent data available from NHTSA and FHWA (from 2022) shows that in the United States, there was an automobile crash approximately every 670,000 miles.” [0]

And for further info that includes a comparison to Waymo see [1].

Doesn’t seem right to call something that is 10x safer “terrible”, but maybe you have different metrics you are looking at.

[0] https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-releases-vehicle-safety-repo... [1] https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024/07/tesla-autopilot-fsd-an...

> that is 10x safer “terrible”, but maybe you have different metrics you are looking at.

Of maybe your “metrics” are just slightly dishonest?

Presumably you can only use FSD under conditions where accidents are already significantly less likely to happen (per mile driven) like freeways etc?

Which makes this an apples to oranges comparison.

Turning “FSD” off just before an accident is likely to happen without necessarily giving enough time for the driver to react would also be very helpful (although I’m not sure how the cases would be recorded specifically )

> Doesn’t seem right to call something that is 10x safer “terrible”, but maybe you have different metrics you are looking at.

Quick question: are there roads or conditions Autopilot doesn't do well on, so can't or won't be activated?

I don't see Autopilot working well in a bitter New England winter storm at night. Or a torrential Florida downpour.

That's why those metrics suck. And Tesla knows. They compare "all drivers, all conditions" to the "idealist, best case subset of miles driven by Autopilot".

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

>> Doesn’t seem right to call something that is 10x safer “terrible”, but maybe you have different metrics you are looking at.

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