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They publish the app under unshut labs. And the terms and conditioning only give more mixed signals:

> 3. Unshut Labs may terminate your access to the app at any time and for any reason, without notice.

https://converseapp.notion.site/Terms-and-conditions-004036a...

So ephemeral actually refers to your ability to use their app.

It seems like the kind of risk-averse cover-all clause a corporate lawyer would try to shoehorn into an agreement. I don't exactly blame them - many companies were caught with their pants down when AI became mainstream, as they were being crawled for all their data and they had nothing in their ToS that would allow them to stop it.

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