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Comment by darvinyraghpath | Hacker News Reader

Nah. Skilled immigrants simply do not have a backing votebank to push this through. Capital, as is well known, is more mobile than labor. The reverse 'brain drain' began a while ago. Google India has close to if not more employees than in the US. Indian and Chinese immigrants in tech returning to India and China is (in my anecdotal experience) at an all time high.

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Developed countries are absolutely swamped with immigrants (skilled and not.) We're not short on workers but we are dysfunctionally short on social cohesion. Immigration exacerbates that and people check out.

EDIT: I'm out of posts for the day, here's my reply.

I mean people being able to communicate and empathize with eachother.

No one works

No one can get jobs (all the fake job postings and applications)

No one is dating

etc etc. These are all fundamentally the result of the destruction of social cohesion. This is a well known cyclical phenomenon and immigration is absolutely the opposite thing you should be doing in this phase of the cycle.

EDIT2: You can have large portions of the population unemployed and unemployment at historic lows if enough people have dropped out of the work force. According to the BLS that appears to be exactly what has happened in the US and is consistent with what I'm arguing.

I'm guessing by social cohesion you mean 'people unlike me'. Many Americans do seem to share that view.

By social cohesion they probably mean social cohesion. Assuming the worst creates noise (and is explicitly against HN rules).

The fact that two people from some pairings of cultures don't socially cohere as well generally, on average than two people from the same culture shouldn't be a controversial thought. It's demonstrably a non-negligible issue. I've seen it undeniably harm teams and make everybody basically miserable, first hand, three or four times. Of course if one uses that fact to attempt to spread hatred, then that is a problem.

Why do this curt shitcoating of another person's honest opinion?

Edit: And as a sad disclaimer, I am not defending the parent's person. I do not know them. I am only criticizing your response.

There are many Europeans I share genealogical origins with that I would vehemently oppose and lack social cohesion with, just as I am sure there are many Mexicans whom I share no blood with that I would have high social cohesion with. It is not a controversial idea that, as an American, I should desire for those who live here to follow the same laws, standards, and patriotic beliefs me and my neighbors adhere to. If you hate America and wish for its demise, break laws, and refuse to live by the few social norms imposed upon you in America, then I genuinely do not want you here.

Not to be overly dismissive but you just sound like a Boomer ranting on Facebook here. The "no one works anymore" line for example is directly contradicted by the unemployment percent which is currently sitting at all-time historic lows.

If you wanted to disagree without being dismissive, you should have omitted the first sentence.

Regarding "no one works", regardless of whether it's an exaggeration, it does not mean "nobody is employed".

Is employment at an all-time high? It appears to be down 4 points from the high of the last decade (64.4 in ‘00 to ‘23’s 60.3), unemployment only being a “historical low” if you compare the last 3 years, as since 2020 (56.8) it’s been, slowly, regaining the post-‘08 high during ‘19 (60.8).

https://www.statista.com/statistics/192398/employment-rate-i...

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